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I have this teory about all the injuries, but why ruin a perfectly delightful Sunday.
 
So far, my "analysis" is all wet. Valkyries double the heck out of Paige, other Wings not doing much.
 
What's with Maddy Siegrist? In her four years at Nova, she increased her FG percentage efficiency each year, as well as her FT percentage. Each year an improvement over the last.

Then she turns pro and joins the Wings. Starts off great shooting the ball her rookie year in both FG and FT percentages, but then drops off in year two and again in year three. Is there something in the water in Dallas? Good grief!
 
So far... Paige is 0 for 2 shooting, doubled constantly making shot tough to get and tough to make. But she has four assists.

Wings in front 34-32.

I believe she had 0 assists Friday... So at least some Wings have made shots off her passes.
 
38-36 Wings at the half... Paige 0-5 from the floor, no points... 5 assists, a steal, a foul, a turnover. At least the Wings are making the V's pay for their double-team tactic.

Meanwhile, Kaitlyn Chen scored a bucket for the V's.
 
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The coach is almost an idiot. I think the effort level is terrible on this team. But he's trying. Unfortunately it just makes doubling Paige easier.

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The Dallas Wings enter Sunday afternoon’s contest against the Golden State Valkyries with a league-worst 9-28 record. This poor season has come despite a histor
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Wings down by 6 after 3 q's... Paige is not having a good day, has started getting open more, but missed a few shots she would normally make.
 
Paige nails a 3!!

Pretty depressing...

Paige finally gets offense going, but still has just 9. I think this would be her first single-figure game this season.
 
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Many of us thought this season in Dallas would be bad, but did anyone think it would be this bad? Paige follows up a 44 point performance with an 11 point game, then a 9 point game. But worse, they lose to an expansion team that is now 19-18, fighting for a playoff spot. Meanwhile, Dallas is 9-29, eliminated from the playoffs.
 
Aluminny69 said:
Many of us thought this season in Dallas would be bad, but did anyone think it would be this bad? Paige follows up a 44 point performance with an 11 point game, then a 9 point game. But worse, they lose to an expansion team that is now 19-18, fighting for a playoff spot. Meanwhile, Dallas is 9-29, eliminated from the playoffs.
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Terrible coach, the most player turnover in the history of basketball, very dumb owner, a bunch of players, not a team ...um, let's see, I guess that's enough.
 
The announcers stated that Paiges passes were to slow to her teamates after she was double teamed and the defense was able to recover and cover there man. Also teammates do not have a high BB IQ which is why the team plays so poorly on defense and offense.
 
Actually, it seemed like Paige would get single coverage for a second or two, which would quickly morph into a double and triple team (2 in front of her and 1 behind her first when she try to retreat and regroup).
Obviously, she had a bad shooting game, but under the circumstances (between coverage on her and being surrounded by inept shooters and teammates not playing intelligently or with any sense of anything besides themselves), the 9 assists with only 1 turnover is pretty remarkable.
Contrast that with Burton (who played brilliantly), but was surrounded by gifted shooters on a team that played as a team and only had to contend with Dallas' "defense."
 
rt bb fan said:
The announcers stated that Paiges passes were to slow to her teamates after she was double teamed and the defense was able to recover and cover there man. Also teammates do not have a high BB IQ which is why the team plays so poorly on defense and offense.
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That's why you can't double A.T. or C.C. because if you do they pass so well they find the open player for a layup or a wide open three
Paige is a good passer but not an elite one
 
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browns said:
That's why you can't double A.T. or C.C. because if you do they pass so well they find the open player for a layup or a wide open three
Paige is a good passer but not an elite one
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I would say Paige IS an elite passer. I think her issue this year is a disorganized team. To make good passes she needs to know where her teammates will be and when they’ll cut. It’s been clear to me from the beginning of the season that the team has little discipline on offense or defense. I’d hoped it would get better with time, but the combination of turnover on the team and a coach of questionable ability has put that possibility to rest.
 
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browns said:
That's why you can't double A.T. or C.C. because if you do they pass so well they find the open player for a layup or a wide open three
Paige is a good passer but not an elite one
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Seriously? On a good team, where everyone passed the ball and cut, Paige was 2nd in the nation in A/TO ratio with a remarkable 3.52. Surround her with more experienced players who understand ball and player movement better than the inexperienced cast of characters she currently plays with, and her assist numbers in the W, which are very good, would be considerably better.
 
browns said:
That's why you can't double A.T. or C.C. because if you do they pass so well they find the open player for a layup or a wide open three
Paige is a good passer but not an elite one
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I don't think you've been paying attention. Paige may be the best passer in the W. Often she has no one to pass to to accomplish anything.
 
oldude said:
Seriously? On a good team, where everyone passed the ball and cut, Paige was 2nd in the nation in A/TO ratio with a remarkable 3.52. Surround her with more experienced players who understand ball and player movement better than the inexperienced cast of characters she currently plays with, and her assist numbers in the W, which are very good, would be considerably better.
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I wouldn't waste time responding to Browns on this forum. He is obviously a devoted CC fan whose prime purpose being on this forum and this specific Paige's Wings Page thread is no matter what stat is referenced to continually contrast Paige in a negative light while promoting CC even when the "facts" or 'stats" he states are wrong or at best misleading. Get's tiresome. I think the most appropriate reaction to his posts is no reaction. Best to just ignore him completely.
 
browns said:
That's why you can't double A.T. or C.C. because if you do they pass so well they find the open player for a layup or a wide open three
Paige is a good passer but not an elite one
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RockyMTblue2 said:
Terrible coach, the most player turnover in the history of basketball, very dumb owner, a bunch of players, not a team ...um, let's see, I guess that's enough.
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If the ownership has any desire in wanting to make the Wings at least a strong competitor in the W then they must seriously consider starting over. It ain't working and won't as long as this team is managed and coached the way it is. The Wings despite the brave post-game comments by the players and the coach is not a team but instead a loosely and badly formed bunch of basketball players who don't play team basketball on offense or defense. It's simply dreadful to watch how Paige must feel game after game when the Wings just can't get it together. Enough Old Willie. You're beating a dead horse.
 
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my2cents said:
Paige is gassed. This season needs to end for the Wings.
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She's also got a bad back right now........if the team wasn't so shorthanded, she probably would have sat out a game or two or at least played limited minutes....
 
Aluminny69 said:
Many of us thought this season in Dallas would be bad, but did anyone think it would be this bad?
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On the other hand, I did not expect Paige to be as good as she is, at least not this quickly.
 
browns said:
That's why you can't double A.T. or C.C. because if you do they pass so well they find the open player for a layup or a wide open three
Paige is a good passer but not an elite one
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You must not know the equation for assists — it takes a passer and a finisher and also chemistry between the two. And then there’s A/TO statistics to give context.

Indiana’s 2024 season had effectively 3 starting lineups with Caitlyn being the obvious point guard. The team had 7 players who played at least 34 (of 40 games) with four (Caitlyn, Aliyah, Kelsey and NaLyssa) who played in all 40 games. Caitlyn’s Win Shares/Wins % is 15% (3.0/20.0) which is what you expect on more balanced teams.

Dallas’ 2025 season, to date, has 14 starting lineups in 38 games. JJ Quinerly is the point guard in 11 of Paige’s 31 games. The most games played by starters are Paige (31), Arike (29), Luisa (23), Myisha (15), NaLyssa (15), Dijonai (13), JJ (13), Haley (12), Li (12). Paige’s Win Shares/Wins % is 41.1 % (3.7/9). Paige is the only&1 season-long (31/38 games) best performer on that dreadful team.

Caitlyn’s A/TO (2024) is 1.51 (337/223). Paige’s A/TO (2025 thru 8/25) is 2.57 (162/63) which is remarkable in the context of a dreadful team. And one has to remember that even Arike has exhorted Paige to score more and look to assist less, given team realities.

I must say that you have validated the stereotype for Caitlyn Clark stans, having thrice interjected on a “Paige’s Wing Paige” only to spout your stanship. 2026 figures out to be a league wide reset of rosters (including Dallas), meaning more apples-to-apples comparisons. Maybe you should keep your powder dry until then on your Caitlyn vs. Paige obsession.

&1 Arike’s WS/Wins % is 10% (0.9/9).
 
OK, kicking around who the Wings can choose in the next draft. Betts, sure a safe pick, but if you look back to the UConn game, if she is more than 2 feet from the basket she can't score. The W demands a Big that can move around the paint, able to shoot 3's, and be a top-notch passer. After the next campaign, I wonder if Serah Williams could show that she is a top candidate. We know she is good, but under CD's tutelage, maybe she can develop to be a great Big that the pros cannot dismiss. Never know, she is already an all-Big10 player, so who knows how good she can get after a year with UConn. Serah will have plenty of exposure, so it is up to her how far she can go, and she may prove to be that good.
 
Bald Husky said:
OK, kicking around who the Wings can choose in the next draft. Betts, sure a safe pick, but if you look back to the UConn game, if she is more than 2 feet from the basket she can't score. The W demands a Big that can move around the paint, able to shoot 3's, and be a top-notch passer. After the next campaign, I wonder if Serah Williams could show that she is a top candidate. We know she is good, but under CD's tutelage, maybe she can develop to be a great Big that the pros cannot dismiss. Never know, she is already an all-Big10 player, so who knows how good she can get after a year with UConn. Serah will have plenty of exposure, so it is up to her how far she can go, and she may prove to be that good.
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Interesting take, Bald Husky. Haven't given lot of thought to Serah with Betts and the other names being cast up as potential Wings candidates. Will like to see how she advances under Geno's and CD's wings. No doubt transferring in she is extremely motivated so with a strong will to improve and a high skill level she could definitely surprise a lot of people.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
I don't think you've been paying attention. Paige may be the best passer in the W. Often she has no one to pass to to accomplish anything.
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Not according to Nancy Lieberman she's not and she knows a lot better than you or I would about passing the ball
 
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