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[azfan]

Is Utah next?

The Action Network reported the Big 12′s stability and more lucrative outlook compared to the uncertain future of the Pac-12 and the wait for a new media rights deal among the reasons for Colorado’s decision.

With Colorado heading to the Big 12, what comes next for Utah and the Pac-12?

With Colorado on the move to the Big 12, what comes next for Utah and the Pac-12?

www.sltrib.com

 

[azfan]

Hummmm

If San Diego State is critical to your conference survival you're doomed....

Colorado is gone: Now the Pac 12 Conference NEEDS San Diego State to stay afloat

NBC 7’s Derek Togerson looks at why the Pac 12 Conference is failing and how the Aztecs can help it remain viable Finally, San Diego State has something resembling leverage. They’ve been trying to join the Pac 12 Conference for a while. Now, they might be the ones who can save it from...

www.nbcsandiego.com

"The Buffs are bouncing back to the Big 12 for that very reason, and they might not be the only ones. Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah have all had conversations with the Big 12. If the Pac 12 doesn’t get its media deal ironed out ASAP they’re staring down the very real possibility of having only eight teams left, if not fewer, which is something else Kliavkoff said he was not losing any sleep over:"

Oy

This is the type of "leadership" that is leading the Pac-8 down the road to perdition.....

 

[visitingcock]

Hummmm

If San Diego State is critical to your conference survival you're doomed....

Colorado is gone: Now the Pac 12 Conference NEEDS San Diego State to stay afloat

NBC 7’s Derek Togerson looks at why the Pac 12 Conference is failing and how the Aztecs can help it remain viable Finally, San Diego State has something resembling leverage. They’ve been trying to join the Pac 12 Conference for a while. Now, they might be the ones who can save it from...

www.nbcsandiego.com

"The Buffs are bouncing back to the Big 12 for that very reason, and they might not be the only ones. Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah have all had conversations with the Big 12. If the Pac 12 doesn’t get its media deal ironed out ASAP they’re staring down the very real possibility of having only eight teams left, if not fewer, which is something else Kliavkoff said he was not losing any sleep over:"

Oy

This is the type of "leadership" that is leading the Pac-8 down the road to perdition.....

This appears to be a PAC tradition. I previously blamed Larry Scott for the conference woes, but it seems to be an entrenched . . . ambivalance? , , , as to the future of the conference.

 

[azfan]

This appears to be a PAC tradition. I previously blamed Larry Scott for the conference woes, but it seems to be an entrenched . . . ambivalance? , , , as to the future of the conference.

Pac 12 or Pac 11 or Pac 8 .....

The defining characteristic has been incompetence. We now know that Larry Scott and his quislings were ethically challenged and it may be the case with the current "leader."

This is a result in large part art result of member school presidents who have a focus other than big time athletics.

In the valley of the Sun in addition to 26 consecutive high temps above 110 Tempe is plagued by wannabe developer and ethically challenged Michael Crowe. His focus is abusing the tax exempt status afforded higher education to engage in development activities along Tempe Town lake and other areas.

Other Pac schools may have presidents who are either gullible and buy the party line spewed by Larry Scott and his successors or like Crow have their attention elsewhere.

 

[azfan]

Is that land grant school in the Dirty T planning a move?

Sources: Big 12 looks to add another, get to 14

After adding Colorado, the Big 12 is interested in adding one more school to eventually bring conference membership to 14 teams, sources told ESPN.

www.espn.com

"As uncertainty continues to loom over the Pac-12, which will dwindle to nine members, sources have indicated that Arizona has sparked interest within the Big 12."

 

[azfan]

An outstanding history and perspective of the Pac disintegration from the LA Times.

Commentary: George Kliavkoff and the new Pac-9 learn a hard lesson. Universities follow the money

Tasked with cleaning up Larry Scott's mess, George Kliavkoff got little help from college presidents, with USC, UCLA and Colorado following the money.

www.latimes.com

Conclusion is on point:

"Kliavkoff has proved to be overmatched to this point, but he will take more blame than he should. This falls on his bosses and their predecessors, the presidents and chancellors who have repeatedly acted toward big-time college athletics in a way the rest of the country would expect of the institutions that represent the West Coast ethos."

 

[azfan]

Pac 8 and counting?

"According to college football insider Greg Swaim, Arizona's move to the Big 12 is a done deal. In what will be a huge blow for the Pac-12, the university is expected to officially announce its intention to exit the conference on or before Tuesday."

CFB insider claims Arizona to Big 12 a done deal and drops a deadline for the Big 12 expansion, extending to 14 programs

Arizona is reportedly set to depart the Pac-12 to join Colorado in the Big 12.

www.sportskeeda.com

"The Pac-12 might apparently be left to die, as a number of college football analysts had predicted."

 

[azfan]

Great title....

Pac-12 extinction speculation: Arizona & Big 12 rumors fly, Pac-12 unable to deliver numbers​

Pac-12 extinction speculation: Arizona & Big 12 rumors fly, Pac-12 unable to deliver numbers

A lot of Arizona Wildcats sources seem to be confident that they will be in the Big 12 by 2024. Their likely move could decide who goes next.

writeforcalifornia.com

Will The Pac-12’s Next TV Deal Be Enough To Save It?

The Pac-12 has lost three schools, and still lacks a media rights deal. There’s no guarantee replacement schools will bridge the gap.

frontofficesports.com

For the Pac-12, the hits just keep coming.

On Thursday, the University of Colorado announced it would ditch the Pac-12 for the Big 12 in 2024. One Colorado regent said she wished the Pac-12 well, “whatever it is in the future.”

For the Pac-12, the hits just keep coming.

On Thursday, the University of Colorado announced it would ditch the Pac-12 for the Big 12 in 2024. One Colorado regent said she wished the Pac-12 well, “whatever it is in the future.”

Lol
“The Pac-12 is in never-never land,” one industry source told Front Office Sports.

 

[azfan]

Pac 9 considering a relatively low Apple streaming offer.

https://www.si.com/college/stanford/football/ranking-the-remaining-pac-12-schools-by-who-needs-the-conference-to-stay-together-the-most#gid=ci02c5bf6b10002467&pid=make-or-break

"According to sources, the first year of what's expected to be a relatively short-term contract with Apple would start in 2024-25 and begin relatively low relative to the league's hopes."

Sources: Apple emerges as likely play for Pac-12

Although several options were presented to Pac-12 presidents and chancellors, the primarily subscription-based Apple streaming deal emerged as the likely leader when commissioner George Kliavkoff presented it to the group Tuesday.

www.espn.com

"There are not expected to be any imminent decisions on whether this TV deal is enough to appease Arizona, Arizona State and Utah, which are being heavily courted by the Big 12. The Arizona board of regents, which oversees Arizona and ASU, is scheduled to meet later Tuesday, but no decision is expected after the meeting."

 

[azfan]

A great lede;

Well, it might be time to say goodbye to the the Pac-12 – or Pac-9 or whatever it is anymore. The league is going, going … soon to be gone. If the Pac-9 were a horse, they would shoot it. The league has been seriously wounded and it’s difficult to imagine how it can be saved.

Next school(s) to leave the Pac-12, turn out the lights

With the clock ticking, the future of the 108-year league hangs in the balance

www.deseret.com

Although.....death march is pretty good.......

The vibrations coming out of the Pac-12 are starting to sound like a death march. It’s not quite time to read the last rites, but you might want to keep them nearby just in case.

In the end, there was no magic bullet, no mystery deal, nothing commissioner George Kliavkoff had up his sleeve. The unsatisfactory truth of the Pac-12’s journey to a new media rights deal is that the negotiations were never going well, the contract was always going to be bad and the reason its conclusion kept getting pushed off into the future was because Kliavkoff held a terrible hand.

Pac-12 schools have to be nervous about future: There was never a great media deal coming

The truth of the Pac-12’s journey to a new media rights deal is that negotiations were never going well and the contract was always going to be bad.

www.usatoday.com

I guess it's a race and UofA Oregon and Washington seem to be out the door with ASU not far behind......

Big Ten examining potential additions of Oregon, Washington, California and Stanford to conference

The Big Ten is taking a preliminary look at further expansion amid growing uncertainty on the West Coast

www.cbssports.com

The Big Ten has started considering further additions to its 16-team conference with league members holding preliminary conversations surrounding expansion to as many as 20 teams, sources tell CBS Sports. While Oregon, Washington, California and Stanford -- all Pac-12 members -- are the programs under consideration by the league, it is Oregon and Washington that are the primary focus should the Big Ten chose to expand by two programs and become an 18-team conference.

Amid Pac-12, Big 12 rumors, Arizona State's Ray Anderson says Sun Devils in 'good spot'

Arizona State athletic director Ray Anderson addressed the state of the Pac-12 media deal and Big 12 expansion speculation with reporters Wednesday.

www.azcentral.com

 

[nwhoopfan]

How the school presidents allowed Larry Scott to hang around so long and run the conference into the ground...I'll never understand that. It sickens me that the conference is on the verge of ceasing to exist. I'll still follow some of the schools, but it won't be the same. Feels like a tiny bit of myself will die along with the conference.

 

[azfan]

Big Ten eyes expansion amid Pac-12 instability

The Big Ten officially acknowledged it has started exploring the possibility of expanding to add schools from the Pac-12.

www.espn.com

Big 10 moving in....

The Big Ten's exploration of potential expansion, which the league generally acknowledged Wednesday, underscores the fragility of the overall collegiate landscape and casts a pall over the future of the Pac-12.

A key facet of Washington and Oregon coming to the Big Ten at this juncture, according to sources, is that they would likely be able to come in at a partial share. Big Ten schools project an average annual value of more than $60 million per year in just television money through the length of the Big Ten deal. It's unknown what the league would look to bring in Washington and Oregon for.

Washington's and Oregon's conference predicament would likely have them come in below that $60 million figure, then ramp up and aim for a full share when the current television deal expires.

 

[jake0414]

How the school presidents allowed Larry Scott to hang around so long and run the conference into the ground...I'll never understand that. It sickens me that the conference is on the verge of ceasing to exist. I'll still follow some of the schools, but it won't be the same. Feels like a tiny bit of myself will die along with the conference.

I expect you'll recover and adjust....

 

[azfan]

Ducks and Huskies............gone?

Sources: Big Ten OK'd to scout Oregon, UW adds

Commissioner Tony Petitti was tasked with bringing Big Ten presidents back more information on the potential additions of Oregon and Washington. Sources cautioned to ESPN that there are many directions on how everything could play out in the big picture.

www.espn.com

"Big Ten presidents and chancellors met early Thursday morning and authorized commissioner Tony Petitti to explore adding Oregon and Washington in expansion as potential conference members, sources told ESPN.

Petitti was tasked with narrowing his focus to those schools, amid the uncertainty surrounding the Pac-12's future, and bringing the presidents back more information on the potential additions. "

 

[triaddukefan]

 

[cancontent]

"Terribly disappointing for student-athletes."????? Give me a break. How about this?

We didn't have the foresight to develop a better media strategy decades ago. For some reason, we thought little of it, trusted people who seemed to think less of it and still have no idea how we got to this place. We believed the history of the league would be our main calling card and that not much effort was required to stay competitive. We goofed and destroyed a conference that had a long tradition of success.

Seriously, these people don't have a clue as to what they've done. This statement is proof.

 

[cancontent]

And the hits keep coming. The stuff coming out is unbelievable and believable at the same time.

 

[Carnac]

And the hits keep coming. The stuff coming out is unbelievable and believable at the same time.

Oregon State and Washington State = red-headed step-children. Ha ha ha. Unbelievable. If you didn't see this for yourself, you wouldn't believe it.

 

[darrell]

 

[triaddukefan]

And the hits keep coming. The stuff coming out is unbelievable and believable at the same time.

Poor land grants

 

[TheFarmFan]

And the hits keep coming. The stuff coming out is unbelievable and believable at the same time.

Soooooo Arizona. It wasn't Stanford, Cal, Oregon or Washington (all of whom have reportedly spurned the Big 12, reasonably or unreasonably), and Utah and ASU were reportedly quite committed to the Pac-9 until Oregon and Washington bolted.

But that smacks of the kind of waffling Arizona had been doing for the past few weeks, so not really surprising nor telling re: anyone else in the conference.

 

[Ladeeeeda]

Can't see this happening. What ACC schools want to add at least 150k each programs expenses by traveling out West twice a year? No way.

 

[cancontent]

Can't see this happening. What ACC schools want to add at least 150k each programs expenses by traveling out West twice a year? No way.

Ask the BIG 10 schools that have 4 teams on the West Coast to face. In the end if it means more dollars, they don't care.

 

[Ladeeeeda]

Ask the BIG 10 schools that have 4 teams on the West Coast to face. In the end if it means more dollars, they don't care.

Yes, but Standford and Cal aren't going to be adding money in any way. They are taking money.

 

[cancontent]

Yes, but Standford and Cal aren't going to be adding money in any way. They are taking money.

How so? If the ACC believes it will be profitable to them to add Stanford, who is the main draw in all reality, they'll figure a way to make it work.

I get that the ACC has an insane contract term, but landing a school like Stanford is like those stones in the Avenger movies. Collecting all the good ones gives them an advantage.