PAC-12 Chaos

[ctchamps]

There are backfills, but the PAC had elitist visions of who they could add. SDSU was always available. They basically replace Colorado. If the assumption was Colorado gone, backfill with sdsu and move on

If they assumed Colorado stayed, then it was SDsU and SMU to get back to 12. Now maybe throw in Tulane and they could still get back to 12.

Still don’t think Colorado is this huge impetus for defections. None of the other schools want the Big 12.

If at @GoKU is correct Arizona and ASU may have serious interest. That would be seismic to the PAC. Getting UConn and Arizona would accomplish Yormack’s goal of increasing the conference’s superiority in basketball. Additionally Imagine the Hurley brothers playing against one another and the hype it would generate.

Colorado was a means to an end. It mollifies any resistance to UConn with any current Big 12 schools and precipitates the Zona moves. If the scenario plays out Yormack, at least for the moment, significantly puts the Big12 in the number three position when just a short while ago they were on life support.

 

[B1GEast]

The PAC 12 just ran out of toilet paper and ESPN is not there to give them any

 

[Dooooooomed]

 

[jostar1]

Good for USF.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

It would be absolutely hilarious if teams that joined the AAC three weeks ago bolted to the Pac 12.

 

[UConnJim]

The ACC is in a much better position than the B12. They have their own network, major brands in football and basketball and they are tied together for 13 more years. The ACC remains the best fit for us. As BC continues to go down their clout diminishes greatly within the ACC. We need to invest in Mora and sellout our games

The ACC is unstable because they have major brands that want to move to the P2 and have options to do so. The only question is does that happen in 2036 or earlier? The Big 12 is a group of schools that really don't have P2 options. As for the ACCN, the ACCN will see peak revenues very soon as it is a linear cable network with cord cutting reducing the number of subscribers over time. That is the same issue that is impacting ESPN. Can the ACCN drive revenue growth through streaming? I don't think so as the ACC is made up of too many small private schools with limited fanbases.

 

[NH Husky]

Not sure where to put this but why not here. Here’s a far fetched scenario that may not be that far fetched.

UCONN already has a Big XII invite but are waiting to see the four corner schools response. If Arizona and ASU go to Big XII that would certainly be a nail in the coffin of the PAC as it exists. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and Cal are not going to back fill with the teams discussed.
UCONN has also been in discussions with B1G. Should PAC collapse, UCONN Oregon Washington and Notre Dame to B1G. Four 5 team pods
East: UCONN, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland, Notre Dame
West: UCLA, USC, Oregon, Washington, Nebraska
Pod 3: Michigan, Ohio St, Mich St, Indiana, Purdue
Pod 4: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Iowa, Illinois

Stanford, Cal fly independent for a few years with a scheduling agreement with B1G.
When the ACC collapses bring in Virginia, UNC, Cal, and Stanford. Virginia and UNC to East pod. Notre Dame to Pod 3. Nebraska to Pod 4. Cal and Stanford to West.

That shores up both coast population centers plus their already existing footprint.

Yeah, it’s an “out there” idea but if you’re gonna dream you might as well dream B1G.

 

[Rico444]

UCONN already has a Big XII invite but are waiting to see the four corner schools response.

There is absolutely zero chance this is true.

 

[jostar1]

Think of it---Those schools are going to become P6 and if UConn doesn't get a Big12 invite we are still G5. Ugh!

 

[JMick]

I was just thinking, Benedict started his career at ASU and was there for a decade. I wonder if he still has a pulse on what's going on over there and maybe that's leading to our supposed confidence that Aaron Torres has noted?

 

[NH Husky]

There is absolutely zero chance this is true.

11 years ago people would’ve said the same thing about Rutgers to the Big 10

 

[jostar1]

11 years ago people would’ve said the same thing about Rutgers to the Big 10

You are misunderstanding his post. We don't have a Big 12 invite at this time.

 

[Rico444]

You are misunderstanding his post. We don't have a Big 12 invite at this time.

No, I'm saying two things:

1) There's no chance the B1G would invite us right now, and
2) Even if they would, there's no way we would slow play the Big XII invite in hopes of that. The second either conference offers us, we're accepting.

 

[ZooCougar]

The fact that we didn’t may mean something.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

The fact that we didn’t may mean something.

It means we're not insane. UConn joining this configuration of the Pac 12 right now would be batshit crazy.

 

[NH Husky]

No, I'm saying two things:

1) There's no chance the B1G would invite us right now, and
2) Even if they would, there's no way we would slow play the Big XII invite in hopes of that. The second either conference offers us, we're accepting.

The fact is as much we may root for UCONN, none of “us” boneyarders are privy to the real goings on. And neither are the trolls or click-baiting cellar dwelling tweeters. If you knew and were posting on here what you knew you wouldn’t be in the know much longer. There’s a lot of money at stake in these negotiations so confidentiality is critical.
The rest of us look for crumbs to support our narrative. Some do it via trolling (which I think is pathetic). Some grasp the littlest possible clue.
I am damn proud of my alma mater and believe based on our academic and athletic department performance we are just as deserving, if not more deserving, of a seat at the big (or B1G) table as a majority of the so-called P5 schools. I didn’t say that scenario was happening but I choose to be a positive dreamer.
Colorado’s invite was probably extended when they were visited months ago. And they responded appropriately waiting to see a counter. The same may be happening with UCONN.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

The fact is as much we may root for UCONN, none of “us” boneyarders are privy to the real goings on. And neither are the trolls or click-baiting cellar dwelling tweeters. If you knew and were posting on here what you knew you wouldn’t be in the know much longer. There’s a lot of money at stake in these negotiations so confidentiality is critical.
The rest of us look for crumbs to support our narrative. Some do it via trolling (which I think is pathetic). Some grasp the littlest possible clue.
I am damn proud of my alma mater and believe based on our academic and athletic department performance we are just as deserving, if not more deserving, of a seat at the big (or B1G) table as a majority of the so-called P5 schools. I didn’t say that scenario was happening but I choose to be a positive dreamer.
Colorado’s invite was probably extended when they were visited months ago. And they responded appropriately waiting to see a counter. The same may be happening with UCONN.

Stop, we aren't going to the B1G.

 

[NH Husky]

Stop, we aren't going to the B1G.

As if you know

 

[ZooCougar]

As if you know

It’s pretty easy to make that conclusion.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

It’s pretty easy to make that conclusion.

Yeah but I still remember the days when the same could have been said about our men's basketball team ever winning a national championship.

 

[Tfoyle]

It would be comical if the PAC 12 and Big east merger. UCONN PAC 12 football and then just have a west and east basketball wing (throw zags in the west). its uneven but would be fun (zags, uconn, zona, nova). All other sports just keep on the coast and have a one conf championship in Vegas/Chicago/NYC/San Fran

 

[businesslawyer]

The fact that we didn’t may mean something.

My son and I were actually discussing earlier whether under NCAA rules we could join the Pac for football only. We have an academic profile that fits in, compared to the academic riff raff on the list, and if it's football only who cares how long the plane flight is since ach school would only make the trip once every other year.

Maybe it is a good sign that USF asked and we didn't.

 

[ZooCougar]

The PAC 12 is just beyond screwed at this point.

This is exactly like the fall of the Old New Big East.

The Commish has no power and no ability to leverage more money and he is forced to cobble together some G5s to have a solvent conference.

The current members are freaking out or just biding their time because they have one foot out the door. And possibly pushing for things that aren’t in the best interest of the conference.

Those that are stuck are under risk of falling prey to moral hazards of those that are leaving.

 

[ZooCougar]

The PAC 12 is just beyond screwed at this point.

This is exactly like the fall of the Old New Big East.

The Commish has no power and no ability to leverage more money and he is forced to cobble together some G5s to have a solvent conference.

The current members are freaking out or just biding their time because they have one foot out the door. And possibly pushing for things that aren’t in the best interest of the conference.

Those that are stuck are under risk of falling prey to moral hazards of those that are leaving.

And didn’t the Big East vote to decline a more lucrative Media Deal with Pitt and Cuse basically months away from announcing they were leaving? Hazards.

 

[JMick]

And didn’t the Big East vote to decline a more lucrative Media Deal with Pitt and Cuse basically months away from announcing they were leaving? Hazards.

With the reports that the schools wanted $50m each, it's definitely possible that the demise of the PAC was an inside job much like the big East