Overview of 1st and 2nd round games (Mar. 21-24)

[Plebe]

I thought we should also have a thread to discuss the NCAAT games in a general or synthesized way.

I know the women's tournament is chalk-heavy by tradition, but has there ever been an entire day of first-round play where the higher-seeded teams have gone 16-0? I'm hoping that our team of crack researchers can get on that.



Second round, day 2 of 2 (Wed., March 24)

Maryland (2) vs. Alabama (7) (1p, ESPN2)

Georgia (3) vs. Oregon (6) (3p, ESPN2)
Missouri St (5) vs. Wright St (13) (3p, ESPNU)

Indiana (4) vs. Belmont (12) (5p, ESPNU)
Louisville (2) vs. Northwestern. (7) (5p, ESPN2)

Arizona (3) vs. BYU (11) (7p, ESPNU)
Texas A&M (2) vs. Iowa State (7) (7p, ESPN2)

UCLA (3) vs. Texas (6) (9p, ESPN2)

Already played:

First round, day 1 of 2 (Sun., March 21):
Iowa (5) d. Central Michigan (12), 87-72
Virginia Tech (7) d. Marquette (10), 70-63
Oklahoma State (8) d. Wake Forest (9), 84-61
Kentucky (4) d. Idaho State (13), 71-63
Tennessee (3) d. Middle Tennessee (14), 87-62
Michigan (6) d. Florida Gulf Coast (11), 87-66
NC State (1) d. North Carolina A&T (16), 79-58
Baylor (2) d. Jackson State (15), 101-52
Georgia Tech (5) d. Stephen F. Austin (12), 54-52 OT
Syracuse (8) d. South Dakota State (9), 72-55
South Carolina (1) d. Mercer (16), 79-53
Oregon State (8) d. Florida State (9), 83-59
UConn (1) d. High Point (16), 102-59
West Virginia (4) d. Lehigh (13), 77-53
South Florida (8) d. Washington State (9), 57-53
Stanford (1) d. Utah Valley (16), 87-44

First round, day 2 of 2 (Mon., March 22):
Georgia (3) vs. Drexel (14) (12p, ESPN2)
Rutgers (6) vs. BYU (11) (12p, ESPNU)
Alabama (7) vs. North Carolina (10) (12p, ESPN)
Indiana (4) vs. VCU (13) (2p, ESPNU)
Arizona (3) vs. Stony Brook (14) (2p, ESPN2)
Arkansas (4) vs. Wright State (13) (2p, ESPN)
Gonzaga (5) vs. Belmont (12) (4p, ESPN2)
Maryland (2) vs. Mount St. Mary's (4p, ESPN)
Northwestern (7) vs. UCF (10) (4p, ESPNU)
Iowa State (7) vs. Michigan State (10) (6p, ESPN)
Texas A&M (2) vs. Troy (15) (6p, ESPN2)
Missouri State (5) vs. UC Davis (12) (7:30p, ESPNU)
Texas (6) vs. Bradley (11) (8p, ESPN2)
Louisville (2) vs. Marist (15) (8p, ESPN)
Oregon (6) vs. South Dakota (11) (10p, ESPN2)
UCLA (3) vs. Wyoming (14) (10p, ESPN)

Second round, day 1 of 2 (Tues., March 23)
NC State (1) vs. South Florida (8) (3p, ESPN2)
Kentucky (4) vs. Iowa (5) (3:30, ESPNU)
Tennessee (3) vs. Michigan (6) (5p, ESPN2)
West Virginia (4) vs. Georgia Tech (5) (5:30p, ESPNU)
Baylor (2) vs. Virginia Tech (7) (7p, ESPN2)
South Carolina (1) vs. Oregon State (8) (7p, ESPN)
UConn (1) vs. Syracuse (8) (9p, ESPN)
Stanford (1) vs. Oklahoma State (8) (9p, ESPN2)

 

[Lorcan]

The last time that the chalk went 16-0 on a particular day was on March 20, 2010.

6. St. John's bt. 11. Princeton 65-47
3. Florida State bt. 14 Louisiana Tech 75-61

1. Tennessee bt. 16 Austin Peay 75-42
8. Dayton bt. 9. TCU 67-66 (Dayton won on a buzzer beating layup. Quite the day.)
5. Georgetown bt. 12. Marist 62-42
4. Baylor bt. 13. Fresno State 69-55

7. Lousiana State bt. 10. Hartford 60-39
2. Duke bt. 15 Hampton 72-37

1. Stanford bt. 16 UC Riverside 79-47
8. Iowa bt. 9. Rutgers 70-63
5. Georgia bt. 12. Tulane 64-59
4. Oklahoma State bt. Chattanooga 70-63

7. Gonzaga bt. 10. North Carolina 82-76
2. Texas A&M bt. 15. Portland State 84-53

5. Michigan State bt. 12. Bowling Green 72-62
4. Kentucky bt. 13. Liberty 83-77

So, it's not unprecedented or extraordinarily a long time ago.

 

[Plebe]

The last time that the chalk went 16-0 on a particular day was on March 20, 2010.

6. St. John's bt. 11. Princeton 65-47
3. Florida State bt. 14 Louisiana Tech 75-61

1. Tennessee bt. 16 Austin Peay 75-42
8. Dayton bt. 9. TCU 67-66 (Dayton won on a buzzer beating layup. Quite the day.)
5. Georgetown bt. 12. Marist 62-42
4. Baylor bt. 13. Fresno State 69-55

7. Lousiana State bt. 10. Hartford 60-39
2. Duke bt. 15 Hampton 72-37

1. Stanford bt. 16 UC Riverside 79-47
8. Iowa bt. 9. Rutgers 70-63
5. Georgia bt. 12. Tulane 64-59
4. Oklahoma State bt. Chattanooga 70-63

7. Gonzaga bt. 10. North Carolina 82-76
2. Texas A&M bt. 15. Portland State 84-53

5. Michigan State bt. 12. Bowling Green 72-62
4. Kentucky bt. 13. Liberty 83-77

So, it's not unprecedented or extraordinarily a long time ago.

Great work! Thanks for this.

Not unprecedented, but long enough ago to be considered a rare event. Approximately 20 first-round days of play have transpired since then.

And look at some of those seeds! It feels like it's been eons since Tennessee was a 1 seed or Duke was a 2 seed.

 

[Vowelguy]

I'm surprised it was that long.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Chalk is out the window today!

 

[triaddukefan]

Great work! Thanks for this.

Not unprecedented, but long enough ago to be considered a rare event. Approximately 20 first-round days of play have transpired since then.

And look at some of those seeds! It feels like it's been eons since Tennessee was a 1 seed or Duke was a 2 seed.

2017 for the good gals

 

[LETTERL]

So...the way things are starting out today, and with something obviously in the air in the great state of Texas...are the Longhorns on upset watch today?

 

[Plebe]

2017 for the good gals

Ha oh yeah that’s true! How quickly we forget. I actually predicted Duke would be the last 2 seed ahead of Maryland, who everyone assumed would be a 2, and for a rare moment in time I was right. Then both would lose to an upstart 10 seed Oregon team.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Chalk is getting murdered today. Making the Tourney a bit more interesting.

 

[LETTERL]

Mercado region has lost the 5-seed and 6-seed in the last three hours.

 

[Plebe]

Mercado region has lost the 5-seed and 6-seed in the last three hours.

I suspect that we may see another 5 or 6 seed bite the dust tonight.

 

[stwainfan]

It will be the first game ever between Tennessee and Michigan.

 

[Plebe]

I tell ya, of the 3 games in this prime time slot I sure as heck didn't expect Louisville to be the team that's struggling

 

[nwhoopfan]

Twilight Zone moment, 2 of the games are at 54-37 at the moment.

edit--blink and you missed it

 

[Rooster C.]

End of Round 1 P5 results :

Big12 go 3-0 day one, 2-0 day two, 5-0 overall

SEC go 3-0 day one, 3-1 day two, 6-1 overall

Pac-12 go 2-1 day one, 3-0 day two, 5-1 overall

Big Ten go 2-0 day one, 3-2 day two, 5-2 overall

ACC go 4-2 day one, 1-1 day two, 5-3 overall

Head-to-head:
Big12 #8 Okla. St. over ACC #9 W.F.
Big12 #7 Iowa St. over Big Ten #10 Mich. St.
Pac-12 #8 Ore. St. over ACC #9 FSU
SEC #7 Alabama over ACC #10 N.C.

The losses by The SEC,Pac-12,and Big Ten were all close contests. Not so much for the ACC
Surprises: #4 Arkansas, #6 Rutgers losing in first round,
#2 Texas A&M escaping, (#5 G.Tech escaping not so much)

 

[Plebe]

The matchups get a lot juicier starting today. I don't think I'd classify any of them as gimmes for the favorites, although of course that doesn't mean they'll all be close games.

Very intrigued by Kentucky–Iowa, Tennessee–Michigan and South Carolina–Oregon State.

 

[Lorcan]

I saw a stat somewhere that the Pac-12 was 39-5 since the 2012-2013 Big Dance in the First Round. If true, that's an unbelievable statistic for the conference that keeps proving that it's one of the best in the nation if not the best.

 

[azfan]

I saw a stat somewhere that the Pac-12 was 39-5 since the 2012-2013 Big Dance in the First Round. If true, that's an unbelievable statistic for the conference that keeps proving that it's one of the best in the nation if not the best.

And with only a single loss by the women this year Pac on both men's and women's side is shining in the early going in this year's tournament.

Can Oregon State continue the momentum against South Carolina?

 

[Plebe]

I saw a stat somewhere that the Pac-12 was 39-5 since the 2012-2013 Big Dance in the First Round. If true, that's an unbelievable statistic for the conference that keeps proving that it's one of the best in the nation if not the best.

Even more impressive to me is that the American Athletic Conference has a perfect unbeaten and unblemished record against the mighty Pac-12 in this year’s NCAA tournament.

 

[Lorcan]

Even more impressive to me is that the American Athletic Conference has a perfect unbeaten and unblemished record against the mighty Pac-12 in this year’s NCAA tournament.

It's a good thing that you didn't mention the WNIT. Nobody wants to talk about Houston beating ASU in the Consolation.

 

[Plebe]

It's a good thing that you didn't mention the WNIT. Nobody wants to talk about Houston beating ASU in the Consolation.

It’s clear to me that my Coogs were just too devastated about being the first team out of the NCAAs. Luckily for ASU they haven’t had that issue.

 

[visitingcock]

End of Round 1 P5 results :

Big12 go 3-0 day one, 2-0 day two, 5-0 overall

SEC go 3-0 day one, 3-1 day two, 6-1 overall

Pac-12 go 2-1 day one, 3-0 day two, 5-1 overall

Big Ten go 2-0 day one, 3-2 day two, 5-2 overall

ACC go 4-2 day one, 1-1 day two, 5-3 overall

Head-to-head:
Big12 #8 Okla. St. over ACC #9 W.F.
Big12 #7 Iowa St. over Big Ten #10 Mich. St.
Pac-12 #8 Ore. St. over ACC #9 FSU
SEC #7 Alabama over ACC #10 N.C.

The losses by The SEC,Pac-12,and Big Ten were all close contests. Not so much for the ACC
Surprises: #4 Arkansas, #6 Rutgers losing in first round,
#2 Texas A&M escaping, (#5 G.Tech escaping not so much)

Here is how Massey's rankings reacted to the first round games:

Team	Record	Δ	Rat	Pwr	Off	Def	HFA	SoS	SSF	EW	EL
Team	Record	Δ	Rat	Pwr	Off	Def	HFA	SoS	SSF	EW	EL

Stanford Pac 12	26-2 0.929		1 9.56	1 77.44	3 104.52	1 37.82	2.69	15 54.52	12 54.73	0.90	0.10
Connecticut Big East	25-1 0.962		2 9.50	2 76.89	5 104.23	2 37.56	2.68	70 47.93	69 48.24	0.93	0.07
Baylor Big 12	26-2 0.929		3 9.12	3 74.75	6 103.59	3 36.06	2.83	63 49.06	60 49.36	0.90	0.10
Maryland Big 10	25-2 0.926		4 9.04	4 73.25	1 111.64	47 26.51	2.86	38 51.77	41 51.91	0.86	0.14
South Carolina Southeastern	23-4 0.852		5 8.70	5 70.04	10 100.84	7 34.09	2.78	10 54.74	9 55.00	0.72	0.28
UCLA Pac 12	17-5 0.773	+1	6 8.47	7 66.38	17 98.53	10 32.74	2.79	8 55.63	8 55.77	0.73	0.27
Oregon Pac 12	14-8 0.636	+1	7 8.38	6 68.99	11 100.37	8 33.51	2.59	7 55.90	7 56.08	0.76	0.24
NC State Atlantic Coast	21-2 0.913	-2	8 8.35	11 63.98	15 98.94	20 29.93	2.84	56 50.14	55 50.34	0.77	0.23
Arizona Pac 12	17-5 0.773	+2	9 8.20	10 64.15	46 94.14	4 34.90	2.77	11 54.72	13 54.69	0.82	0.18
Louisville Atlantic Coast	24-3 0.889		10 8.17	9 65.16	13 99.43	18 30.62	2.62	61 49.28	57 49.65	0.68	0.32
Indiana Big 10	19-5 0.792	+1	11 8.15	8 65.40	21 97.52	9 32.77	2.67	35 52.09	40 51.95	0.91	0.09
Texas A&M Southeastern	24-2 0.923	-3	12 8.07	17 60.92	26 96.57	24 29.25	2.79	65 48.83	63 49.25	0.53	0.47
Oregon St Pac 12	12-7 0.632	+5	13 7.93	13 62.23	12 100.12	40 27.00	2.50	4 56.82	2 57.48	0.28	0.72
Michigan Big 10	15-5 0.750	+3	14 7.91	12 62.25	18 98.51	28 28.64	2.71	27 52.94	24 53.34	0.53	0.47
Tennessee Southeastern	17-7 0.708		15 7.84	15 61.37	22 97.51	27 28.75	2.74	37 51.77	36 52.19	0.47	0.53
Rutgers Big 10	14-5 0.737	-2	16 7.77	14 62.20	38 94.94	13 32.15	2.94	71 47.61	71 47.61	0.00	0.00
Georgia Southeastern	21-6 0.778	-4	17 7.73	20 60.03	42 94.73	19 30.19	2.63	52 51.02	43 51.67	0.24	0.76
Ohio St Big 10	13-7 0.650	+3	18 7.71	16 61.11	9 100.98	64 25.02	2.84	29 52.63	31 52.63	0.00	0.00
West Virginia Big 12	22-6 0.786	-1	20 7.70	24 58.85	39 94.94	26 28.80	2.73	21 53.65	22 53.76	0.57	0.43
Iowa Big 10	19-9 0.679	+3	19 7.70	19 60.43	2 108.33	230 16.99	2.60	9 54.78	10 54.90	0.55	0.45
Oklahoma St Big 12	19-8 0.704	+4	21 7.61	18 60.60	41 94.77	16 30.72	2.68	40 51.70	33 52.62	0.10	0.90
Northwestern Big 10	16-8 0.667	+5	22 7.60	22 59.54	61 92.04	11 32.40	2.56	24 53.28	21 53.76	0.32	0.68
Iowa St Big 12	17-10 0.630	+1	23 7.56	21 60.01	8 101.15	83 23.75	2.74	14 54.61	11 54.84	0.47	0.53
Missouri St Missouri Val	22-2 0.917	-3	23 7.56	28 57.79	50 93.21	23 29.48	2.60	87 44.98	88 45.07	0.82	0.18
Arkansas Southeastern	19-9 0.679	-9	25 7.51	25 58.61	4 104.42	176 19.09	2.86	48 51.33	50 51.33	0.00	0.00

All Pac teams (except Stanford of course) rose, Oregon State by 5 spots!

Big Ten winners rose significantly. Northwestern by 5 spots!

No SEC teams rose. Arkansas fell 9 spots!

No ACC teams rose.

Big 12 mixed bag. Okie State up by 4 spots

Further down, Nebraska rose 12 spots and BYU rose 15 spots

 

[azfan]

It’s clear to me that my Coogs were just too devastated about being the first team out of the NCAAs. Luckily for ASU they haven’t had that issue.

That Coug trapping defense was unreal in the first quarter. The Devils couldn't overcome what has become a familiar theme this season which is a lousy first quarter. After trailing by 9 they took the lead in the fourth but couldn't withstand the Cougar charge. Houston bagged two key offensive boards late in the game. 50-48 and really fun to see intense defense.

 

[Plebe]

I saw a stat somewhere that the Pac-12 was 39-5 since the 2012-2013 Big Dance in the First Round. If true, that's an unbelievable statistic for the conference that keeps proving that it's one of the best in the nation if not the best.

On a more serious note, this statistic of first-round W-L record is impressive-sounding but a bit misleading. How many of those first-round wins were by teams seeded 9 or lower? Likely not many. Again, the women's tournament is notoriously chalky. I do remember Oregon as an under-seeded 10 just barely squeaking by 7th seeded Temple by a single point when a would-be buzzer beater rimmed out. And I think maybe Cal was a 9 that year and beat UNC (yawn) in the 1st round in Waco.

 

[azfan]

On a more serious note, this statistic of first-round W-L record is impressive-sounding but a bit misleading. How many of those first-round wins were by teams seeded 9 or lower? Likely not many. Again, the women's tournament is notoriously chalky. I do remember Oregon as an under-seeded 10 just barely squeaking by 7th seeded Temple by a single point when a would-be buzzer beater rimmed out. And I think maybe Cal was a 9 that year and beat UNC (yawn) in the 1st round in Waco.

However it is nice to take care of your business. I'm sure Arkansas can attest to that.