outside the family.......

[pepband99]

Frank Martin's one of the only humans alive that has a better chance of spontaneous combustion at a basketball game than i have. Cross him off now

 

[HeGotGame]

I like Shaka Smart, but the bolded sentence above is not true.

Free was the same guy who thought UVM and Fairfield would get at-large bids last year. VCU needs to win the CAA tourney or they will be in the NIT.

http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm

 

[Matt (Chicago)]

i dont think sean miller would come to uconn. Nor do i think he is the right fit. A name i wasnt thinking of that was brought up here was Frank Martin, if he does have Northeast ties i'd think he would be a good candidate. Other candidates mentioned like Hurley, Stevens, and Smart all deserve looks atleast. As long as the program isnt handed over to ollie without a search im fine with it. As long as the university goes through a comprehensive search for a new hc when calhoun calls it quits, i am sure the right person will be selected.

would you care to back up your opinions with any reasoning, or are you just going to subject us to them with nothing to back them up?

 

[sparky]

Ollie has done little to improve the guard play and as a matter of fact it has deterioated. He looks good in a suit.

 

[YearoftheHusky]

I like Kevin Ollie alot, being an NBA point guard is a benefit, but it is not a better internship than being a head coach at the college level.

Scott Skiles and Mark Jackson disagree.

 

[CTFIRERETIRED]

The Hurley theory is intriguing. I am not sure that Hurley really wants to be coming here. Uconn never really had much success with recruiting St. Anthony kids. Some said that there was bad blood between JC and Daddy Hurley. This is speculation that's all.Found this story this morning on Yahoo sports. Another intriguing spin.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...blem-a-coach-who-needs-to-retire-but-wont/rss

 

[AJC88]

The Hurley theory is intriguing. I am not sure that Hurley really wants to be coming here. Uconn never really had much success with recruiting St. Anthony kids. Some said that there was bad blood between JC and Daddy Hurley. This is speculation that's all.Found this story this morning on Yahoo sports. Another intriguing spin.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...blem-a-coach-who-needs-to-retire-but-wont/rss

That's from CBS and there is already a thread dedicated to that awful hackjob. Don't give Doyel any more views, the man is a moron.

 

[freescooter]

hegotgame,
the CAA got 3 bids last year and all went past the first round. They had as many teams in the Sweet 16 as the Big East. Given that VCU went to the Final Four last year, and given that this is another year where the field is not all that deep, I think they have a pretty good chance of a bid unless they lose in an early round of the CAA. UCONN on the other hand, needs to win 2 of the next 3. Syracuse blew them out of the building a few days ago, so that one is no gimme. PC is always a tough game. Its their NCAA tournament since they ain't getting to the real one.

 

[HeGotGame]

hegotgame,
the CAA got 3 bids last year and all went past the first round. They had as many teams in the Sweet 16 as the Big East. Given that VCU went to the Final Four last year, and given that this is another year where the field is not all that deep, I think they have a pretty good chance of a bid unless they lose in an early round of the CAA. UCONN on the other hand, needs to win 2 of the next 3. Syracuse blew them out of the building a few days ago, so that one is no gimme. PC is always a tough game. Its their NCAA tournament since they ain't getting to the real one.

??? So, because the CAA got 3 bids last year and VCU went to the final four, they will get in this year.

Your statement makes 0 sense. Less than 0 actually. Past performance has 0 say on who gets in this year, if it did UConn would be a lock. Odd you used that logic for VCU and not UConn.

Did you look at the link? Not one bracket has them in as an at-large. They did nothing in the non-conference other than lose to Bama, GT and Seton Hall.

 

[HeGotGame]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/CT/VACOMM

Free, compare the teams, if you still somehow think VCU has a better shot than UConn to get in than I give up.

 

[freescooter]

??? So, because the CAA got 3 bids last year and VCU went to the final four, they will get in this year.

Your statement makes 0 sense. Less than 0 actually. Past performance has 0 say on who gets in this year, if it did UConn would be a lock. Odd you used that logic for VCU and not UConn.

Did you look at the link? Not one bracket has them in as an at-large. They did nothing in the non-conference other than lose to Bama, GT and Seton Hall.

Noone had them last year either. And they have right now 23 wins. Look if they lose in the first round of the CAA tourney, they have no shot. but if they end up with a CAA finals loss, with 27 wins or so, I think they are in. UCONN needs to win at least 2 of the next 3, one of which they'll be big underdogs and the other two against teams that give them problems all the time...PC has given us trouble for years. Doesn't mean they always beat us, but those are usually tough games. Pitt isn't having a great year, but newsflash, neither are we. UCONN hasn't won 2 in a row since January 9 and 14. Otherwise UConn will need to make a deep run in the big East Tournament. Do you like our odds of that?

 

[caw]

Noone had them last year either. And they have right now 23 wins. Look if they lose in the first round of the CAA tourney, they have no shot. but if they end up with a CAA finals loss, with 27 wins or so, I think they are in. UCONN needs to win at least 2 of the next 3, one of which they'll be big underdogs and the other two against teams that give them problems all the time...PC has given us trouble for years. Doesn't mean they always beat us, but those are usually tough games. Pitt isn't having a great year, but newsflash, neither are we. UCONN hasn't won 2 in a row since January 9 and 14. Otherwise UConn will need to make a deep run in the big East Tournament. Do you like our odds of that?

Depends on what you mean by "deep run". If UConn loses 2 or 3 of the final three, they can win the first game of the BET and probably a second a third would be tough, but possible depending on matchups.

 

[champs99and04]

My issue with Stevens is that he isn't a Northeast guy. Now, don't get me wrong, maybe it doesn't matter for him (I don't know the man), but he seems like he would jump at Kansas or Indiana in a heartbeat, even from a program like UConn or Syracuse or even Duke/UNC. That's just the impression I get from him.

Hurley is a NE guy and I don't think there is a better program in the country that he would necessarily leave for (and be asked). UNC likes to stay in family, IU/KU/UK and UCLA all seem outside the box for a coach like Hurley. Syracuse has their next coach. Duke could make sense, but moreso for Bobby than Danny, assuming K stays around long enough for Bobby to get experience. I wouldn't be shocked to see Bobby head coach somewhere in the near future.

Miller would be a good replacement, and of course someone to call, but I'm not sure he leaves UofA for UConn. It's a pretty good program, he has two great classes there and he gets paid top dollar there. The only thing going for UConn is it's a NE school and he is from the east coast. UConn may be a marginally better program (I mean UofA is solid).

Amaker would be interesting, though this situation mirrors Michigans, which wasn't really a great idea for Amaker.

Stevens is no doubt a mid-west guy by heart, and I think he would jump at the Indiana job given the chance. However, he does strike me as a loyal guy who isn't going to be flying across the country for job interviews all the time. Give him the resources and I think he'll build a power program into a powerhouse, and if that happens, I don't think he'll have any reason to leave.

There aren't necessarily any problems with the guys you listed, it's just that Stevens is more of a sure thing IMO. Miller would be a great recruiter but probably isn't on the same level as a guy like Stevens as far as in game coaching goes. He isn't a bad option, and I would be happy to get him, but I don't see him as having much incentive if at all to leave Arizona.

Hurley has a lot of promise, but he has yet to experience a high level success at any program, nevermind one like UConn. We don't know whether he can recruit, and plus, nobody wants a Hurley coaching UConn, regardless of what part of the country he's from.

 

[Henry]

I think uconn should stay in the family. They can always make another choice down the road.

Calhoun and Ray Ray support Ollie. I think it's best to defer to these two gents.

Having a Hurley as the coach of uconn is gross and disgusting, and much, much worse.

The problem with staying in the family is that the "son" is never as good as the "father". You can't replicate what Calhoun did. It's better to make a good hire like UCONN did with our new AD.

 

[Hoophound]

You can't just say "abc coach would/wouldn't come here". The candidates have questions and make demands. If UConn can give them what they want, they will come because tradition, facilities (new facility) and recruiting territory won't be an issue.

If Sean Miller considers coming to UConn but requires $3,000,000 per to do it (I think he makes 2 mill now), the ball is in Sue's court. If UConn decides they need to protect the golden goose, they will do what is necessary to protect it. I would argue that the prestige of the UConn program will be better defined by who follows JC, than JC himself. If UConn can lure a top coach and pay him big, it is a reflection on the university's commitment to winning as a whole. In the age of expansion I would be looking to make a very strong hire.

I love KO but I am very torn as to whether he should get the job. I have a feeling he would recruit very well, which is half the battle. His ability to motivate players and surround himself with basketball minds that will help him succeed in all other areas are my concerns.

 

[caw]

There are legitimate concerns about Ollie, a lot will depend on how much Herbst/AD are willing to shell out for a new coach.

Don't get me wrong, I am for calling and seeing who is open and whatnot but if it's not a go-away homerun, I stick with Ollie. I see a short, short list of potential coaches who would be willing to consider UConn and are rising high enough to even bother with calling. Even then, I'm not sure if Ollie wouldn't be better at UConn long term.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Noone had them last year either. And they have right now 23 wins. Look if they lose in the first round of the CAA tourney, they have no shot. but if they end up with a CAA finals loss, with 27 wins or so, I think they are in. UCONN needs to win at least 2 of the next 3, one of which they'll be big underdogs and the other two against teams that give them problems all the time...PC has given us trouble for years. Doesn't mean they always beat us, but those are usually tough games. Pitt isn't having a great year, but newsflash, neither are we. UCONN hasn't won 2 in a row since January 9 and 14. Otherwise UConn will need to make a deep run in the big East Tournament. Do you like our odds of that?

I'm sorry, but your predictions about who would or wouldn't make the tournament were way off last year and they are off again this year.

VCU is squarely on the "actual" bubble right now, meaning that if the field were choosen today, it's basically a toss-up as to whether they get in or not. Yes, they have 24 wins - they played the 200th most difficult schedule in the country. Their best win was against South Florida. They have quite a bit of work to do to get in.

On the other hand, if you were choosing the field today, Uconn would get in very, very comfortably. Sure we only have 17 wins, but our SOS is #1 in the country. We have 5 wins that are more impressive than VCU's best win. The RPI is almost as flawed as the APR, but the Committee cares about it. Ours is 24, VCU's is 71.

There is absolutely no comparison between our resume and theirs.

 

[caw]

Shame Pitino isn't about 5-7 years younger and didn't have his incident, or he would be high on the list.

 

[freescooter]

I'm sorry, but your predictions about who would or wouldn't make the tournament were way off last year and they are off again this year.

VCU is squarely on the "actual" bubble right now, meaning that if the field were choosen today, it's basically a toss-up as to whether they get in or not. Yes, they have 24 wins - they played the 200th most difficult schedule in the country. Their best win was against South Florida. They have quite a bit of work to do to get in.

On the other hand, if you were choosing the field today, Uconn would get in very, very comfortably. Sure we only have 17 wins, but our SOS is #1 in the country. We have 5 wins that are more impressive than VCU's best win. The RPI is almost as flawed as the APR, but the Committee cares about it. Ours is 24, VCU's is 71.

There is absolutely no comparison between our resume and theirs.

Fine. We'll see...but I think it is pretty doubtful UCONN gets in without 2 more wins. Highest RPI or not. I don't really care whether VCu does, but I suspect, if they end up with 26-27 wins (not really sure how many games they have left or how the CAA tourney works with byes and all) even if they finish 2nd, they will get in off their performance in 2011. Maybe they won't. The committee likes RPI no doubt, but you still have to win games. That is and continues to be UCONN's issue. 18 wins ain't doing it, especially with 8 losses in their last 10 games.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Fine. We'll see...but I think it is pretty doubtful UCONN gets in without 2 more wins. Highest RPI or not. I don't really care whether VCu does, but I suspect, if they end up with 26-27 wins (not really sure how many games they have left or how the CAA tourney works with byes and all) even if they finish 2nd, they will get in off their performance in 2011. Maybe they won't. The committee likes RPI no doubt, but you still have to win games. That is and continues to be UCONN's issue. 18 wins ain't doing it, especially with 8 losses in their last 10 games.

Last year's performance is completely irrelevent but for the sake of argument let's say that it does matter. You're saying that the Committee is going to reward VCU because of their performance in the 2011 tournament but not reward the team that won the 2011 tournament?

 

[HeGotGame]

Exactly. The guy makes no sense.

 

[HuskyFan32]

He went to the Final four from a mid-major conference with a team that had never gone beyond the 2nd round and now has them 23-6 and on the verge of another NCAA bid. What do you want for consistency? they have a better shot at the NCAA tounament this year than we do for heaven sakes. His records over his 3 years are 27-9, 28-12 (final four), 23-6 so far this year. All he does is consitently win.

Ok you go have larranega I'll take Kevin Ollie at uconn and well see what happens. I like my chances

 

[HuskyFan32]

Exactly. The guy makes no sense.

He will argue with you over anything,anytime, any place. I've never seen someone passionately argue the merits of Jim Larranega until now.