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Our scheduling philosophy going forward as an independent

Again - lazy. How about Wake? Duke? Cuse? Just chalking these up as hopeless L's, compared to what we have been through, isn't telling the whole story.

We lost all of those games. Cuse obviously limited their playbook because they had a bigger game the following week. They could have beaten us by 3-4 TDs if they opened it up.

You just don't know ball.
 
Is there an opening line for our games with BC Duke and Syracuse? Looking at the schedule I only see winnable games. With a veteran QB and a purportedly solid or better Portal year, could be a springboard year. Keep this scheduling philosophy until we are consistently 10-2 with a decent bowl. Does 12-0 give us a sniff at playoffs?

Based on SP+ , which is as good as anything, and throwing 3 in for home/away

BCU -8
Duke -8
Cuse -9

For the others
Delaware +4.5
Ball St +18
Buffalo -2.5
FIU +16
Rice +7
UAB +11
Air Force +1
FAU +6
 
You mean like yourself and Mr laughing emoji pining for the AAC? We've seen what chasing a basically useless title will get us - we torpedoed our entire AD, despite the momentum of winning a basketball title at the beginning of it. No shocker zoo is pro-UMass to the MAC - it's the same scenario with a worse team in a worse league.

It doesn't strike you simpletons that 3 of our P4 losses were on the road, and 2 of them very competitive, not to mention the bogus home loss to Wake? Scheduling H:H matchups is exactly what will turn this tide.

It's just a lazy argument to pin this on conferences. Boise, Tulane, and JMU would have smoked us last year - do we cut G5 conferences at the drop of a hat?

Not once did I ever say I pine for the AAC. The fact you have to start out with that shows how weak the argument being made is.

I just went back and read the OP and it's even a more insane proposal than I remembered. Not only does he want to up the P5 games to 5 with home and homes (ensuring 2-3 road P5 games a year) he only wants to round out the remaining schedule with games vs Pac 12 and AAC teams and eliminate any games vs Sun Belt, MAC, Conference USA, etc. Insanity. Yeah let's go Duke, at Cuse, at Maryland, BC, at UNC with Oregon State, at Boise State, at Memphis, Temple (easy win right?), Tulane, some road game at whatever Texas school is currently in the AAC. But hey he let's us keep the UMass game and FCS game. That is begging for the days of 3-9 records even if Mora continues to improve the quality of play..

While people focus on the competitive near misses vs Duke/Wake, they got amnesia in how fortunate we were to win vs Temple and UAB. We are making progress under Mora. This proposal would set us back. But seeing this is seemingly based on fans own vanity and entitlement (the no games vs Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA give that away) and not the health and growth of the program that shouldn't surprise anyone.
 
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We lost all of those games. Cuse obviously limited their playbook because they had a bigger game the following week. They could have beaten us by 3-4 TDs if they opened it up.

You just don't know ball.
Teams limit playbook early in the season, not 10 games in. By the time they played us, everyone had seen their playbook.
 
Based on SP+ , which is as good as anything, and throwing 3 in for home/away

BCU -8
Duke -8
Cuse -9

For the others
Delaware +4.5
Ball St +18
Buffalo -2.5
FIU +16
Rice +7
UAB +11
Air Force +1
FAU +6
It’ll be interesting to revisit this and see what the actual lines turn out to be. I would guess (hope) we’ll be favored by more against Delaware and Buffalo
 
Seems like this should be in the discussion somewhere. Didn't Duke intentionally not score at the end of the game. So that would have been an 11 or 12 point loss.
 
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Seems like this should be in the discussion somewhere. Didn't Duke intentionally not score at the end of the game. So that would have been an 11 or 12 point loss.
As 17.5 point dogs. Wouldn't have been a big deal if it happened, and it didn't anyway.

We were up 21-17 going into the 4th quarter. Were you guys watching the same game?
 
Based on SP+ , which is as good as anything, and throwing 3 in for home/away

BCU -8
Duke -8
Cuse -9

For the others
Delaware +4.5
Ball St +18
Buffalo -2.5
FIU +16
Rice +7
UAB +11
Air Force +1
FAU +6
So 7-4 according to the line. Until we can go 10-2 every year, our scheduling is just fine.
 
Wanna be a big boy, you gotta play with the big boys. I like the progression. Beating UNC doesn’t happen unless we played through our schedule and we built the confidence to win. This year should be similar to the last. With 2 solid years under our belt, we need to be ratcheting up the quality slowly but surely by scheduling an increasing number of mid/lower tier P4s. It’s hard to do because scheduling is so far out but it needs to happen. Always be improving.
 
Last season was fun. Last season involved winning. Winning is fun. Being competitive is fun, as long as enough of those competitive games end with a W. The Huskies are walking a very fine line these days. Things are on the upswing. However, we also aren't far from 2023's 3-9. Having a schedule that's aligned with the state of the program to provide P4 measuring stick games while yielding 8-4 or better is a positive thing. I'm fine with 3 or 4 P4 games until that happens. Does UConn get to Fenway if that last play against Temple yields the far more likely offensive TD instead of a miracle runback? The margin is that small.
 
Wanna be a big boy, you gotta play with the big boys. I like the progression. Beating UNC doesn’t happen unless we played through our schedule and we built the confidence to win. This year should be similar to the last. With 2 solid years under our belt, we need to be ratcheting up the quality slowly but surely by scheduling an increasing number of mid/lower tier P4s. It’s hard to do because scheduling is so far out but it needs to happen. Always be improving.

UNC showed up unprepared to play. It was like they held a meeting right before kickoff. Nice win though.
 
UNC showed up unprepared to play. It was like they held a meeting right before kickoff. Nice win though.
A w is a w. It was a great day and I’ll take it all day long over the decade + of misery I sat through.
 
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A w is a w. It was a great day and I’ll take it all day long over the decade + of misery I sat through.
2 things can be true. We played our faces off, and UNC-Chapel Hill looked more like UNC-Greensboro on that day. They did not care to be there. We did, and no apologies for being the only team that cared for the game.
 
2 things can be true. We played our faces off, and UNC-Chapel Hill looked more like UNC-Greensboro on that day. They did not care to be there. We did, and no apologies for being the only team that cared for the game.
True. But, it speaks volumes about how entitled these P4s are. They can say “if we brought out A game then” but they suited up in their powder blue and got a-whipped however you slice it.
 
True. But, it speaks volumes about how entitled these P4s are. They can say “if we brought out A game then” but they suited up in their powder blue and got a-whipped however you slice it.

Nah. They lost a longtime HC, had a bunch of guys transfer and then a new HC. Lots of people had bigger priorities than a bowl game. The program was in disarray. It’s not entitlement. It’s just the way it is.
 
True. But, it speaks volumes about how entitled these P4s are. They can say “if we brought out A game then” but they suited up in their powder blue and got a-whipped however you slice it.
absolutely.

Our missions are different (UConn vs. UNC). They ARE entitled, compared to UConn who's still looking for a lifeboat in the aftermath of our conference titanic sinking. They're not worried about their existential future, rather can they get into the fancy BIG/SEC league that inevidably is coming (which maybe they might argue is existential, but again - "entitled").

I say no apologies because I challenge anyone in our situation, to do what we are doing as a football program these last 3 years, and as an AD overall. Apples and P4 oranges.
 
True. But, it speaks volumes about how entitled these P4s are. They can say “if we brought out A game then” but they suited up in their powder blue and got a-whipped however you slice it.
Well, granted it was in our backyard but Fenway was glad we were there and the fans that showed up... As for scheduling P-4 I say it bring it on - we wont be playing the top of the P-4, we'll likely play the bottom 2 - tiers so be it. Now if there is a conference that did us ill last year it was the ACC with the bad officiating we got, so yea, maybe we only schedule 1-2 ACC schools. And those schools we played - they were not the best or most excited to play us competetion but were like UNC was in that regard but they had the officials not so in the bowl game. Losing to two teams on the same field (our opponents were not just in school colors but in the black and white stripes). This is why that UNC felt so special. RE: zoo and his brown colored glasses. That season might be a spring board or it might not but that doesn't mean it was NOT a special season. No not like the Dream season of Tate George, Scott Burrell (he actually has an NBA championship ring being able to play and practice with Michael Jordon himself!), and others. And do you think those guys who played in that dream season pictured what would happen 10 years later or what those fans thought would happen in 10 years. But the Coach - he had a vision and yet he didn't know either. But it happened and not because we played cupcakes. Yes we were in the Big East but we were the team that didn't belong as we were notoriously bad back in the day. But we played and and had our Cinderella moment in MBB - now why not in football, why not dream and play who we are scheduled to play and simply ask for it to be a fair contest and see what happens! I'm not pinning for teams that would put our players into the ground with no shot of winning. You act like P-4 competition is OSU the top 50% of the BIG, 80% of the SEC, ot the top4 in the BIG 12.
 
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2 things can be true. We played our faces off, and UNC-Chapel Hill looked more like UNC-Greensboro on that day. They did not care to be there. We did, and no apologies for being the only team that cared for the game.
Thats true of 90% of all bowl games and nobody ever liked playing against the G5 qualifier or Big East rep..
 
I selfishly am patiently waiting for series to be announced against Charlotte, ECU, App, Coastal, etc. Cmon Dave - the Carolina Huskies are ready!!!
 
Thats true of 90% of all bowl games and nobody ever liked playing against the G5 qualifier or Big East rep..
agree with you in these NIL times. prior to a couple years ago, i'd say your 90% would be way off. a bowl was always a reward for everyone except maybe the top teams who didn't make it to the BCS or CFP. For everyone else, game 13 was a treat. That was all prior to kids getting paid (out in the open).

now I only see it as a matter of time before bowls themselves are gone, cuz no one worth watching, will play in them unless there is an incentive to do so, or at last, a stinkin' contract that obligates them to honor their duty to the school that paid them last offseason.

If we're gonna pay these kids, there HAVE to be penalties for being a flake as well as rewards for performance.
By penalties, i don't mean punishment per se, just losing out on cash if you decide to abandon the team. Kid loses out on previously promised NIL income & if dictated in the contract, faces a fine for defecting early, which will probably just be paid by the next school on the kid's behalf.

blegh
 
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Anyone who says we should schedule more P4s isn't worth listening to.
I want to play all P4 teams. But I also want to win 9-10 of those games. I want us to be that good. That's what I want.

Reality is different and we have to acknowledge it. Hopefully a P4 sends us a lifeline. Until then, winning will be helpful.
 
I want to play all P4 teams. But I also want to win 9-10 of those games. I want us to be that good. That's what I want.

Reality is different and we have to acknowledge it. Hopefully a P4 sends us a lifeline. Until then, winning will be helpful.

We should schedule along the lines of other top G6 programs, 2-3 P4 in the schedule tops.
 
2 gimmes, 5 G5, 5 P4. 6 or 7 home games a year, if 6 then the 7th road game should be a big time payday road game.

Say and doing in this environment are different things. The P4 are really the P2, and they have a lot more options for NC scheduling now since the death of the P12 and bloated P4 conferences.

Why play UConn H/H when you can play Purdue, Nebraska, Maryland, Michigan State or any of the new P4 bottom feeders. The 15th place teams is now G5 squads with better name recognition.
 
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2 gimmes, 5 G5, 5 P4. 6 or 7 home games a year, if 6 then the 7th road game should be a big time payday road game.
a lot of folks here agree that payday games do us no favors at this time.
I'd align with them that we should probably avoid them. a 2M check is not worth the bad optics of losing 59-0 to Ohio State or someone like that.
 
If we’re serious about being in a power conference, we can’t be scheduling a ton of cupcakes every year. The schedules for the next few years look pretty good with four power teams and mostly upper level G6 teams. Especially if we can win 9 games again this year, we should really look at 5 power games each year and keep scaling.

Pac will have more scheduling opportunities than most other conferences, so that will be a good opportunity as well. I believe at the moment they’re only slated for 7 conference games, so they’ll need to fill 5 dates per team, per season. That’s probably an appropriate level of competition for where we are at the moment.
 
We should schedule along the lines of other top G6 programs, 2-3 P4 in the schedule tops.
Schools that schedule like G6 remain G6. I get that we need to win, but we also need to try to stand above the G6. We need to be "Notre Dame Light" now that BYU isn't that anymore. We aren't going to recruit P4 caliber players unless the schedule is better than most G6 schools play.

It's a difficult balance for Benedict and Mora.
 
Schools that schedule like G6 remain G6. I get that we need to win, but we also need to try to stand above the G6. We need to be "Notre Dame Light" now that BYU isn't that anymore. We aren't going to recruit P4 caliber players unless the schedule is better than most G6 schools play.

It's a difficult balance for Benedict and Mora.
This. Ideally we’d be scheduling 4-5 P4 teams with one of them being a stretch team, and we fill the rest of the schedule out with upper level AAC and PAC teams. Maybe the likes of JMU or Liberty. UMass too, for the rivalry.
 
Schools that schedule like G6 remain G6. I get that we need to win, but we also need to try to stand above the G6. We need to be "Notre Dame Light" now that BYU isn't that anymore. We aren't going to recruit P4 caliber players unless the schedule is better than most G6 schools play.

It's a difficult balance for Benedict and Mora.

What are you talking about? Do you think all the schools that recently moved up scheduled like P5s?

Look it up yourself.
 
Four P4 teams tops for competitive scheduling because you are not in a top G5 conference that will have one or possibly two teams in the top 25.
 
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