Our Great (*big) Dane ...

[whaler11]

Unless he's limited to 4 years because of his age (or some other factor having to do with being a foreignor), I can't understand why he is playing special teams instead of redshirting. If a true frosh can help you on the two deep, great, but we've burned redshirts for Samra, Joe Williams, Shortell, Floyd and now the Great Dane without having any inkling that any of them are going to help us from scrimmage.

Norris is playing -- that's great. But this is a lot of burned redshirts that just don't seem to be necessary.

They are necessary if you want to win every possible game to stay employed. At his age why would PP give a damn about a project DT's potential eligibility in 2016?

I should add that I hate it and it drives me crazy but I see why they do it.

 

[RedSoloCup]

and parker is listed at 6'4" 250.

crap, I was going to see him for diet advice

 

[uconnbill]

and another. his name is visible

Thanks for the correction and good to see the young man get some playing time on special teams.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

They are necessary if you want to win every possible game to stay employed. At his age why would PP give a damn about a project DT's potential eligibility in 2016?

I should add that I hate it and it drives me crazy but I see why they do it.

Yeah......Joe Williams should be getting some carries IMO. I hate the way they burned Samra's RS. There is no excuse for that. You burn the RS when you need to. You think if he's pressed into action those handful of snaps against UMass are going to help him? I haven't seen Floyd on the field at all. If they threw Knappe in there I could see it because he's 21 years old. But the way this staff has unnecessarily burned redshirts the last 2 years is mind boggling.

 

[Palatine]

Yeah......Joe Williams should be getting some carries IMO. I hate the way they burned Samra's RS. There is no excuse for that. You burn the RS when you need to. You think if he's pressed into action those handful of snaps against UMass are going to help him? I haven't seen Floyd on the field at all. If they threw Knappe in there I could see it because he's 21 years old. But the way this staff has unnecessarily burned redshirts the last 2 years is mind boggling.

Sometimes you burn a redshirt so that you have a player with game experience for the following year. They are doing that with Norris his year. They want Norris to be acclimated to the college game going into spring practice and be ahead of the game come next season. They think this is more important than a year off as we lose a lot at DE.

If they think Floyd has a chance to start (or compete) at CB next year. This may be the same type of move.

Same for Samra.

 

[Dann]

some of u guys are way to hooked on red shirts for frosh. p clearly feels that the players he is bringing in are capable of full development within 4 years and not 5. a bit different from past ways with this team. so lets see what happens with this strategy.

 

[businesslawyer]

some of u guys are way to hooked on red shirts for frosh. p clearly feels that the players he is bringing in are capable of full development within 4 years and not 5. a bit different from past ways with this team. so lets see what happens with this strategy.

What is full development? You don't think players get better on Sundays as they continue to learn and develop?

 

[Dann]

What is full development? You don't think players get better on Sundays as they continue to learn and develop?

yea thats it. once a kid goes to the nfl he can never ever ever get any better. its against the law.

 

[pj]

If he's good enough to help the team as a freshman, he should play. If he's that good he shouldn't need 5 years to prepare for the NFL. If he's helped the team for 3-4 years before leaving, there will be time to recruit a replacement who's equally good.

 

[businesslawyer]

yea thats it. once a kid goes to the nfl he can never ever ever get any better. its against the law.

So then, what do you mean by "full development." Almost 100% of players would be better in year 5 than in year 4, and certainly than they would be in year 1.

 

[Dann]

So then, what do you mean by "full development." Almost 100% of players would be better in year 5 than in year 4, and certainly than they would be in year 1.

what i ment i guess is that p thinks what is possible development wise in college for his kids can be achieved in 4 years in some cases. i think he feels the rs is a wasted year in the grand look of it. its 1 less year the player gets to cash a nfl check and he feels he has kids who in 4 years can develope enough to make the nfl. 4 years vs 5 will also lead to more turnover in a 2nd round of this in 3 or 4 years for all of u that want him gone already.

 

[FAIRTIDES]

what i ment i guess is that p thinks what is possible development wise in college for his kids can be achieved in 4 years in some cases. i think he feels the rs is a wasted year in the grand look of it. its 1 less year the player gets to cash a nfl check and he feels he has kids who in 4 years can develope enough to make the nfl. 4 years vs 5 will also lead to more turnover in a 2nd round of this in 3 or 4 years for all of u that want him gone already.

In the case of the offensive line, I think PP and the OC think developing depth is, at this point, more important than the 5th year. There were a number of articles noting that the OC's number-one priority was OL depth. How many times did we read that he was "holding his breath" hoping that one of the OL's didn't get hurt.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

some of u guys are way to hooked on red shirts for frosh. p clearly feels that the players he is bringing in are capable of full development within 4 years and not 5. a bit different from past ways with this team. so lets see what happens with this strategy.

I'm all for playing true frosh if they can contribute. But Samra has only played a few series against UMass. Assuming the OL stays healthy or he doesn't take another snap this year.....you don't think that's a wasted year of eligibility? I don't mind burning RS's for special teams, but Samra this year and Abrams/Foxx last year bother me.

 

[whaler11]

what i ment i guess is that p thinks what is possible development wise in college for his kids can be achieved in 4 years in some cases. i think he feels the rs is a wasted year in the grand look of it. its 1 less year the player gets to cash a nfl check and he feels he has kids who in 4 years can develope enough to make the nfl. 4 years vs 5 will also lead to more turnover in a 2nd round of this in 3 or 4 years for all of u that want him gone already.

Obviously he doesn't think this but if P thought redshirt years are wasted years, but playing special teams and never cracking the two deep isn't then he'd be the stupidest person who ever walked the earth. Thankfully he doesn't believe that.

 

[Srqhusky]

I am glad we have people on the boneyard that know more than a coach with four big east championships

 

[Palatine]

I am glad we have people on the boneyard that know more than a coach with four big east championships

I missed where P. stands for perfect and he never made a personnel mistake in his career. The theory of the infallible coach once again rears its ugly head.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I missed where P. stands for perfect and he never made a personnel mistake in his career. The theory of the infallible coach once again rears its ugly head.

Agree with Palatine here. I don't know how we would've fared last year if we didn't burn Foxx and Abrams redshirts in garbage time. It would've been ugly.

 

[businesslawyer]

I missed where P. stands for perfect and he never made a personnel mistake in his career. The theory of the infallible coach once again rears its ugly head.

Red herring defense of a position. No one thinks any coach is perfect. But the mere fact that they are capable of mistakes is not an argument that they've made one in a particular instance. To have an argument, it has to be based on more than that.

 

[Srqhusky]

I missed where P. stands for perfect and he never made a personnel mistake in his career. The theory of the infallible coach once again rears its ugly head.

not sure where I said he was perfect we all make mistakes but doesn't a successful record and consistency tell he might just know what he is doing.

If you were in the office of a plastic surgeon about to get your wife breast augmentation. This dr performed successfull surgeries on pamela Anderson an many famous people. If he advised you to go with a d cup instead of a c cup. I'm not questioning him