OTish - Johnny Dawkins, Tacko Fall, and UCF | The Boneyard

OTish - Johnny Dawkins, Tacko Fall, and UCF

Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
9,379
Reaction Score
23,676
I posted this on another board, and I know we have a thread dedicated to the rest of college basketball...but this is a story that really intrigues me. We're almost half-way through the 2016-17 regular season, and Fall is legitimately one of the very best players in the country. He's averaging 15, 12, and 3 per game (23, 17, and 4 per 40 minutes), he's shooting 84% from the field (which I'm guessing is close to historic based on his usage), and his advanced stats - are off the charts. He's fourth in the country in wins shares per 40 minutes, second in PER, sixth in box +/-, and third in defensive rating.

The eye test will confirm all this. There is perhaps no visual more striking than that of Fall asserting his sheer size on both ends of the court. The weakside defenders that typically splurge to the sight of a post touch are ostracized by the horizon of his outstretched arms, and the strongside defenders that drift off shooters are helplessly bound by his maddening contentment to simply hold the ball until they choose.

UCF leads the country in FG% against, and Fall - seemingly just mobile enough to vaporize the paint of shifty guards and skilled pop men who try to bend him to his limits - might be the sort of bread who falls into the delicate range of dominant college players who, because of physical limitations, don't translate to the next level.
I could be wrong. I am curious to hear what the NBA guys think on this one. If I'm not wrong, however, and Fall lasts three or four years at UCF, you wonder what could be possible. Dawkins already has them well ahead of schedule - they rank 71st in KenPom, that being without their second best player, B.J. Taylor, also a sophomore, for the last month.

In the six games and change they played with Taylor, UCF won five by double digits and lost by 10 to Villanova. They lost ugly games to Penn and George Washington without Taylor, but have surged back in their last three by an average margin of 22 points, and yesterday, they led Temple something like 40-10 before relenting.

Taylor should be due back any day now, and as we await their trip to Hartford a week from today, you wonder if somewhere, buried beneath the horrid optics of our current purgatory - playing a directional school from Florida in front of 10,000 people on a Sunday afternoon against the NFL playoffs (knowing our luck, it will be the Patriots or the Giants) - lies something meaningful.
 

intlzncster

i fart in your general direction
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
28,931
Reaction Score
60,234
The weakside defenders that typically splurge to the sight of a post touch are ostracized by the horizon of his outstretched arms, and the strongside defenders that drift off shooters are helplessly bound by his maddening contentment to simply hold the ball until they choose.
....
seemingly just mobile enough to vaporize the paint of shifty guards and skilled pop men who try to bend him to his limits - might be the sort of bread who falls into the delicate range of dominant college players who, because of physical limitations, don't translate to the next level.


Hahaha I love it when you get going
 
Joined
Sep 14, 2011
Messages
277
Reaction Score
510
aaaaannnnnnndddddd.....the Giants-Packers game is officially head to head (4:40 pm) with the UCF game (5 pm).
 

pj

Joined
Mar 30, 2012
Messages
8,736
Reaction Score
25,818
I was puzzled why we didn't recruit Tacko Fall. 17% of all 7 footers make the NBA. It must be 80% to 100% of all 7' 6" guys. As long as he could walk up and down the court, he'd be a sure thing to contribute.

Kudos to UCF for giving him his college shot.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
33,777
Reaction Score
97,952
I was puzzled why we didn't recruit Tacko Fall. 17% of all 7 footers make the NBA. It must be 80% to 100% of all 7' 6" guys. As long as he could walk up and down the court, he'd be a sure thing to contribute.

Kudos to UCF for giving him his college shot.


Me too, and Ryan Gomes.:eek:
 

Huskyforlife

Akokbouk
Joined
Feb 19, 2013
Messages
12,500
Reaction Score
51,464
Nobody could've predicted his rise, he was a walking stick figure in high school. It was smart for a school like UCF to give him a chance.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
1,507
Reaction Score
4,973
I was puzzled why we didn't recruit Tacko Fall. 17% of all 7 footers make the NBA. It must be 80% to 100% of all 7' 6" guys. As long as he could walk up and down the court, he'd be a sure thing to contribute.

Kudos to UCF for giving him his college shot.
I know Tacko and his family. He needed and wanted to stay close to his host family. It is not an easy thing to come from another country. The people that bring over players aren't the Red Cross.
 

pj

Joined
Mar 30, 2012
Messages
8,736
Reaction Score
25,818
I know Tacko and his family. He needed and wanted to stay close to his host family. It is not an easy thing to come from another country by virtue of people who do not care for u but only seek to exploit u.

I suspected something like that was the case given he was mainly recruited by Florida schools.
 

RichZ

Fort the ead!
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
5,264
Reaction Score
22,397
Nobody could've predicted his rise, he was a walking stick figure in high school. It was smart for a school like UCF to give him a chance.

Manute Bol at the University of Bridgeport might have been the prototype for the skinny giant at the small school. And he stuck around the league long enough that he would have been set if he hadn't donated half of what he made to programs back home and lost most of the rest at Foxwoods.
 
Joined
Aug 20, 2012
Messages
1,348
Reaction Score
4,712
Tacko is actually pretty well built physically. Manute was literally a stick figure, but Tacko is 7'6 270 and continues to fill out physically working with a D1 strength and conditioning coach. I caught some of the Temple game this past weekend and was very impressed. I'm going to try and get up to Hartford this weekend for the game to see him play.
 

Online statistics

Members online
288
Guests online
1,668
Total visitors
1,956

Forum statistics

Threads
158,967
Messages
4,175,745
Members
10,047
Latest member
Dixiedog


.
Top Bottom