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OT: Wright made Nova class of college hoops

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Huge respect for Wright and what he has done at Nova. It's a culture that is reminiscent of when CBB was truly great. Bring in good players, let them grow and develop, and supplement with young players to emulate the old. There's a reason that only two of the monster one and done teams have won. Experience usually trumps talent at the college level and Nova is proof of that. Add in that they play such an exciting and modern style... Really dig them and what they do over there.
 
In 2000, Villanova had a better I-AA football program than we did. We chose FBS, they didn't. In 2014, we had a better basketball program than they did. We chose the American, they chose the Big East. Anyone else see the correlation? Anyone still think you have to have a football program for basketball success?
 
In 2000, Villanova had a better I-AA football program than we did. We chose FBS, they didn't. In 2014, we had a better basketball program than they did. We chose the American, they chose the Big East. Anyone else see the correlation? Anyone still think you have to have a football program for basketball success?
I'll stick with Liking @boog204 's comment, question whether we "chose" the American, mention that correlation isn't causation, and hold off a while on the last query because the choice was made with the long-term view and may still be considered an unsettled matter, even as it gives rise to legitimate doubts & concerns in the recent past and near future. We'll see...
 
In 2000, Villanova had a better I-AA football program than we did. We chose FBS, they didn't. In 2014, we had a better basketball program than they did. We chose the American, they chose the Big East. Anyone else see the correlation? Anyone still think you have to have a football program for basketball success?

I think you have to have a good coach for basketball success.
 
The only Big East team that has been a national threat since the split has been Villanova. The rest are pretty much all first weekend fodder.
 
They are the last shining beacon of Northeast and old Big East college hoops, for the time being at least. Pretty sad stuff. UConn, Syracuse, St. John's, Boston College and Georgetown.

Not discrediting anything Jay Wright has done--I think he's one of the most likable coaches in CBB history--but I don't think it's a coincidence that their best years have come when every other Northeast powerhouse has been subpar.
 
They are the last shining beacon of Northeast and old Big East college hoops, for the time being at least. Pretty sad stuff. UConn, Syracuse, St. John's, Boston College and Georgetown.

Not discrediting anything Jay Wright has done--I think he's one of the most likable coaches in CBB history--but I don't think it's a coincidence that their best years have come when every other Northeast powerhouse has been subpar.

I don't understand how a bunch of other teams declining has helped Villanova. Are you saying they get guys they used to share with the other programs?
 
Not a big fan of Jay or Nova but he's built a brand and it attracts some really good players/shooters and works. Big kudos to him and that program now. We were there, we were better and we want that back so now the fun begins in getting there I hope.
 
Villanova was the only name program left with any recent success.

Being out from under the bigger programs and continuity in keeping Wright has paid off.

None of it happens if the BE doesn't break up.
 
Villanova winning would obviously be good for college sports. Rather see them have 3 than Louisville. Wait, UL has 2, right?
 
In 2000, Villanova had a better I-AA football program than we did. We chose FBS, they didn't. In 2014, we had a better basketball program than they did. We chose the American, they chose the Big East. Anyone else see the correlation? Anyone still think you have to have a football program for basketball success?

With an FBS football program we won the NCAA Basketball Title in 2004, 2011, and 2014.

Maybe if they upgraded to FBS football they would be going for their 3rd title.

Ever think of that?
 
We don't align with the goals of the Big East. We align with the goals of the AAC, which is to move to a richer conference. What's so hard to grasp about that?

2 FBS programs in Philadelphia would have been interesting, had they upgraded. Would have been in the AAC right now, too.

Villanova winning would be great for college sports. Would have been nice if the UConn women won, too.
 
Villanova has benefited from the collapse of the original Big East as they filled the power vacuum created by Louisville, UConn, Syracuse, Pitt, and Notre Dame leaving. In the 12 years before the Big East collapsed, Villanova had one one regular season championship and their average league finish was 6th. Since the New Big East formed, Villanova won the first 4 regular season titles and came in 2nd this year. When a team wins, they attract recruits, which brings more winning, which brings in good recruits,...

In the five seasons of the New Big East, the conference has had 5 teams reach the sweet sixteen, 3 times by Villanova. That's better than the American, but it is hardly an elite conference.
 
With an FBS football program we won the NCAA Basketball Title in 2004, 2011, and 2014.

Maybe if they upgraded to FBS football they would be going for their 3rd title.

Ever think of that?

Lol while I'm probably more on the other guy's side of the argument, that line of reasoning is pretty silly
 
They are the last shining beacon of Northeast and old Big East college hoops, for the time being at least. Pretty sad stuff. UConn, Syracuse, St. John's, Boston College and Georgetown.

Not discrediting anything Jay Wright has done--I think he's one of the most likable coaches in CBB history--but I don't think it's a coincidence that their best years have come when every other Northeast powerhouse has been subpar.

But they are beating everyone else also. Not just NE teams. That's not fair.
 
Lol while I'm probably more on the other guy's side of the argument, that line of reasoning is pretty silly

I'm with you as well. His take was just idiotic.

As their was a perfect storm of bad events for UConn, the opposite was true for Nova.

Nova was always a top Big East team in the Old Big East, but now that the league has thinned out, they are the dominant Big East team. Combine that with a great coach and they've done exceptionally well.
 
I just realized that if Nova wins it'll be their third championship. Wow
 
You dupes need to be rooting for Michigan. UConn competes with Nova in NYC and the east coast.

If they win the answer to the question, which program has most recently won 2 titles won't be UConn.
 
I don't understand how a bunch of other teams declining has helped Villanova. Are you saying they get guys they used to share with the other programs?

I mean, it's pretty straightforward. If a bunch of powerhouses in your neighborhood aren't as much of a threat on the court or on the recruiting trail anymore you are going to benefit. They set the record for most wins in a four-year stretch in CBB history, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell they were doing that in the old Big East.
 
With an FBS football program we won the NCAA Basketball Title in 2004, 2011, and 2014.

Maybe if they upgraded to FBS football they would be going for their 3rd title.

Ever think of that?

This ^^

The AAC is actually coming along very nicely with Dan Hurley, Gregg Marshall, Mick Cronin, Kelvin Sampson, Tim Jankovich, Frank Haith, Penny Hardaway, Aaron McKie, Johnny Dawkins, Brian Gregory, Joe Dooley (likely), Mike Dunleavy.

The NBE just lost another of their best coaches. So, now, they look like this:

Jay Wright, Travis Steele, LaVall Jordan, Chris Mullin, Patrick Ewing, Steve Wojciechowski, Kevin Willard, former Tulsa assistant Dave Leitao, Ed Cooley, Greg McDermott

College basketball is a coach driven business.
Comparing the rosters of coaches, the new Big East has "continuity hired" themselves into more mediocre March showings.

Hurley and Penny have been needed at UConn and Memphis for a long time. It is essentially the recent performances of those two schools that affect perception. As it is now, without a strong Memphis/UConn, the AAC is likely a 5 bid conference this year sans injuries at SMU and UCF.

It's not a sprint. Congrats to the NBE on their recent run, but the 3 A10 programs pulled a lot of C7 dead weight, and now the fruits of that run are at Louisville, Ohio State, Virginia Tech, etc. Instead of leveraging a star coach like Gregg Marshall, they hire guys that no other school would want.

I'm curious to see how the next 5 years will go with the new batch of coaches in place. I'm curious to see what Memphis would be with a James Wiseman, or SMU with a Tyrese Maxey. Or UConn next year..

FOOTBALL drives revenue in college sports. I'm looking forward to seeing how the next television contract will reflect a conference that finished with 3 Teams in the Top 25 in FB and MBB. I wish UConn were one of those teams. Only Nova and Xavier made the list and Chris Mack leveraged a better job out of that deal.
 
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You dupes need to be rooting for Michigan. UConn competes with Nova in NYC and the east coast.

If they win the answer to the question, which program has most recently won 2 titles won't be UConn.
Michigan has a way stronger alumni presence in NYC than Villanova does.

If Villanova wins, that'll prove UConn can win while it's in the AAC.
 

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