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Now 2-0, first set. Would love to see Serena deliver a couple of cold bagels to The Shrieker!
 
Sharopova hasn't been a force since she had surgery on her shoulder. The only reason she is still ranked at four is an indication at how weak the upper level of women's tennis is at. The only reason Sharopova still plays is she is marketing herself. I'm willing to bet that Serena wishes she had some competition out there but there just isn't any consistent players. On that note Serena is the best women's tennis player ever but I bet she wishes she had an Evert to her Navratilova.
 
Serena didn't play well today, and still won easily. I feel for Maria when they play. She is a champion and true competitor, but she has to secretly wonder "why bother?"
 
dang that was like UConn vs South Carolina... no contest
 
Congrats to Serena and American women's tennis. 3 Americans in the final 8, and Serena on to the final. American men's tennis is awful, but our women's tennis is very strong with lots of up and comers too... No one at the level of Serena, obviously, but like Graf, Navratolova, and Evert, Serena is a once in a "generation" player...
 
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I agree with Serena's coach. Azaranka is a much better player than Sharapova. Hopefully Sharapova's rankings drop and she gets to play Serena in the quarterfinals. Maria was really a good young fighter when she was young but I hear the word retirement in my head. Every match she seems to have one bad unfocused set.
 
If Serena does win on Saturday, it means her breakdown in Slam championships (Oz-French-Wimby-US) would be 6-3-6-6. No one, not even Steffi (who went 4-6-7-5 herself), has won three of the majors six times.

Meanwhile, the number of consecutive majors won is Martina with six (the last three Slams of 1983 and the first three of 1984) and Steffi with five (1988 Aussie-1989 Aussie). If Serena once again is the reigning champion of all four majors, it's conceivable she could challenge those marks...
 
lanieer said:
I agree with Serena's coach. Azaranka is a much better player than Sharapova. Hopefully Sharapova's rankings drop and she gets to play Serena in the quarterfinals. Maria was really a good young fighter when she was young but I hear the word retirement in my head. Every match she seems to have one bad unfocused set.
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Maria does what Maria does. Chrissy nailed it when she said that Maria just does not move well, AND she's stubborn. Against Serena, she was content to just hit as hard as she could and hope Serena melted down. What she NEEDED to do was mix it up. Drop shots, lobs, change pace, etc. When you are 0 and a zillion against a player, you have nothing to lose at trying something new...
 
MilliniumPrince said:
Serena didn't play well today, and still won easily. I feel for Maria when they play. She is a champion and true competitor, but she has to secretly wonder "why bother?"
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128 women started the tournament and Maria was one of the last four standing: Nothing to sneeze at. While getting there, it is always possible that Serena might slip and stumble. Heather Watson was two points from pulling off the upset. What is surprising, though, is that Maria has not been able to strengthen the weaknesses that become so glaringly obvious against Serena.
 
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VAUConnFan said:
128 women started the tournament and Maria was one of the last four standing: Nothing to sneeze at. While getting there, it is always possible that Serena might slip and stumble. Heather Watson was two points from pulling off the upset. What is surprising, though, is that Maria has not been able to strengthen the weaknesses that become so glaringly obvious against Serena.
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Not my point. Making the semis at the greatest tennis tourney in the world is nothing of which to be ashamed. But but losing 34 out of 37 sets and 17 matches in a row to a contemporary has to take a psychic toll.
 
Phillyconn said:
Anti-American?
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Nope, just anti-Williams sisters. Not a big deal. Most sports fans have teams/players they hate and want to lose. I got a lot. Haters gonna hate. :D

Williams sisters, Mannings, Parcells, Mickelson, TN, Ohio St., Florida, Miami, ND, Tottenham, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Giants (prolly hate them more than any team in any sport), Redskins, Jets, Steelers, Cubs, Yankees, Pirates, hmmm, might be some others, but that's about all I can think of right now.
 
Roger's game looks great but I'm not sure I see anyone beating Novak. I'll be rooting for Roger though... And good for Hingis - in the finals in both the women's doubles and the mixed doubles. That's quite something for a lady who retired 8 or so years ago and returned to tennis 3 or so years ago!
 
Well, Roger took Djoker to five sets last year. He is the grass court guru, and he's starving for another Slam. I wouldn't be shocked if he lost, but I'll be rooting like a madman for that guy. Go Roger- get Wimby #8!!!
 
meyers7 said:
Nope, just anti-Williams sisters. Not a big deal. Most sports fans have teams/players they hate and want to lose. I got a lot. Haters gonna hate. :D

Williams sisters, Mannings, Parcells, Mickelson, TN, Ohio St., Florida, Miami, ND, Tottenham, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Giants (prolly hate them more than any team in any sport), Redskins, Jets, Steelers, Cubs, Yankees, Pirates, hmmm, might be some others, but that's about all I can think of right now.
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Well, when they played for the U.S. in Davis Cup play, did you root against them?
My point is that, I also love to hate some players, (Skylar comes to mind) but when they represent the U.S., I root for them whole heartedly. Serena, is representing the U.S., so for me, that's who Americans should root for when playing against players representing other countries. I want the want the all time greatest players to be from the U.S.A. On the men's side, you now have Federer, who many consider to be the greatest men's player of all time, without an American in sight. On the women's side we have Graf, arguably the greatest women's player. But, we have Serena, quickly approaching Steffi, need I say any more?
On another note, Martina won 6 straight Grand Slams, unbelievable, considering she played in the best era.
 
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Phillyconn said:
Well, when they played for the U.S. in Davis Cup play, did you root against them?
My point is that, I also love to hate some players, (Skylar comes to mind) but when they represent the U.S., I root for them whole heartedly. Serena, is representing the U.S., so for me, that's who Americans should root for when playing against players representing other countries. I want the want the all time greatest players to be from the U.S.A. On the men's side, you now have Federer, who many consider to be the greatest men's player of all time, without an American in sight. On the women's side we have Graf, arguably the greatest women's player. But, we have Serena, quickly approaching Steffi, need I say any more?
On another note, Martina won 6 straight Grand Slams, unbelievable, considering she played in the best era.
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Shockingly enough, they've never played Davis Cup.
 
The Williams sisters’ story is one of the best, and most interesting sports histories to come along in a long time. The story is not identical for the two, because Venus (how can anyone hate her?) is such a benign sweetheart. Serena, of course, is much, much grittier, more reflective of her urban black background, and tough as nails, not the classic profile of a tennis player. The two are trained not in private academies but on public courts, and subsequently, to the very real dismay of many, crash a relatively elitist and mostly white sport where genteel behavior is treasured above all else. They not only crash the obvious barriers, but they dominate the sport, facing not only the overt and voluble racism of the fans (Indian Wells??), but the clear prejudice of a series of chair umpires and linesmen….and yet, alas, they still almost invariably prevail. Which individuals, and/or which teams, one elects to cheer or hate is a matter of indifference to me, but when it comes to these two, I think that any “hater” needs to closely examine his or her motivation, especially if the tendency is to lump them together.
 
Bigpetunia said:
The Williams sisters’ story is one of the best, and most interesting sports histories to come along in a long time. The story is not identical for the two, because Venus (how can anyone hate her?) is such a benign sweetheart. Serena, of course, is much, much grittier, more reflective of her urban black background, and tough as nails, not the classic profile of a tennis player. The two are trained not in private academies but on public courts, and subsequently, to the very real dismay of many, crash a relatively elitist and mostly white sport where genteel behavior is treasured above all else. They not only crash the obvious barriers, but they dominate the sport, facing not only the overt and voluble racism of the fans (Indian Wells??), but the clear prejudice of a series of chair umpires and linesmen….and yet, alas, they still almost invariably prevail. Which individuals, and/or which teams, one elects to cheer or hate is a matter of indifference to me, but when it comes to these two, I think that any “hater” needs to closely examine his or her motivation, especially if the tendency is to lump them together.
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kinda agree... but "urban black background" isnt all that engrained in either sister in my opinion since they started tennis kind of early. "reflection" of urban black background tends to happen in mid-teens to young adult age (15-21).
BUT I "shole" do agree that they crashed thru those barriers... and it pissed off many for some reason (only they could but will not tell you).

Serena "growls" she's angry but if Hingis does it she's "locked in" "determined".... settle stereotypes that people don't understand/see.

Imagine if a black man tried that crap that McEnroe did... was his actions a reflection of his background?

How man are happy that Tiger fell off... and he doesn't have that "urban black background"?

It happens in WCBB as well, sometimes even within the UConn family/fanbase

Overall the Williams sisters story is a great one within the fabric of the United States history. I wouldn't care if they quit tomorrow (after raising the trophy) I would be happy to say I witnessed something special.
 
Bigpetunia said:
The Williams sisters’ story is one of the best, and most interesting sports histories to come along in a long time. The story is not identical for the two, because Venus (how can anyone hate her?) is such a benign sweetheart. Serena, of course, is much, much grittier, more reflective of her urban black background, and tough as nails, not the classic profile of a tennis player. The two are trained not in private academies but on public courts, and subsequently, to the very real dismay of many, crash a relatively elitist and mostly white sport where genteel behavior is treasured above all else. They not only crash the obvious barriers, but they dominate the sport, facing not only the overt and voluble racism of the fans (Indian Wells??), but the clear prejudice of a series of chair umpires and linesmen….and yet, alas, they still almost invariably prevail. Which individuals, and/or which teams, one elects to cheer or hate is a matter of indifference to me, but when it comes to these two, I think that any “hater” needs to closely examine his or her motivation, especially if the tendency is to lump them together.
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In what way is she reflective of her urban black background?
 
DaddyChoc said:
kinda agree... but "urban black background" isnt all that engrained in either sister in my opinion since they started tennis kind of early. "reflection" of urban black background tends to happen in mid-teens to young adult age (15-21).
BUT I "shole" do agree that they crashed thru those barriers... and it pissed off many for some reason (only they could but will not tell you).

Serena "growls" she's angry but if Hingis does it she's "locked in" "determined".... settle stereotypes that people don't understand/see.

Imagine if a black man tried that crap that McEnroe did... was his actions a reflection of his background?

How man are happy that Tiger fell off... and he doesn't have that "urban black background"?

It happens in WCBB as well, sometimes even within the UConn family/fanbase

Overall the Williams sisters story is a great one within the fabric of the United States history. I wouldn't care if they quit tomorrow (after raising the trophy) I would be happy to say I witnessed something special.
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I agree with the latter half of your post, but I must ask, what exactly is this "reflection" of urban black background that tends to happen in mid-teens to young adult age?? "Shole???? What's that?
 
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Phillyconn said:
I agree with the latter half of your post, but I must ask, what exactly is this "reflection" of urban black background that tends to happen in mid-teens to young adult age?? "Shole???? What's that?
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its a time of your life when you make your own decisions/choices... this can happen in the urban, suburban or rural areas of any city/town. A pre-teen/early teen isnt so much into being angry/uptight... they just want to fit in, get to know their body and if their outfit match. Please don't put his/her words in my mouth.

Shole which I put in quotations is derived from "sure is"... hope that helps :rolleyes:
 
DaddyChoc said:
its a time of your life when you make your own decisions/choices... this can happen in the urban, suburban or rural areas of any city/town. A pre-teen/early teen isnt so much into being angry/uptight... they just want to fit in, get to know their body and if their outfit match. Please don't put his/her words in my mouth.

Shole which I put in quotations is derived from "sure is"... hope that helps :rolleyes:
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Thanks, I was just seeking clarification. Shole, sounds like a black person talking. I thought it was sho, as in sho nuff.
 
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