OT: What is the Effect of a Potential Baylor University Football Team Scandal

[Vowelguy]

Briles had to go. His lack of action was inexcusable and cannot be tolerated. I hate to say it, but I hope he is never allowed to coach in the NCAA again.

He'll be coaching again within 3 years. Possibly in a year.

 

[j66kicker]

Think it's safe to say that the two basketball programs led by Ms. Mulkey and Mr. Drew will now be the featured players for the athletics program while the football program starts over. BTW, Where does the athletic director fall out in all of this?

Baylor Bears dismiss football coach Art Briles

Good question.

The SB Nation article said he is "sanctioned" and "on probation" : The school also announced university president Ken Starr will step down to chancellor and athletic director Ian McCaw is "sanctioned" and "on probation."

But the ESPN article says: The school said in the release that McCaw will work with university leadership and the Board of Regents "to implement the recommendations as they relate to the restoration of a tone of accountability within the football program, to effective oversight and controls of the Athletics Department, and to critically needed changes that will re-align the Athletics program with the University mission."

 

[Dillon77]

So what do you think, should I ask the question at the top of the thread again?

Would seem to be a logical question. Wasn't one of the alleged victims/person that lodged a complaint a Baylor soccer player?

 

[Kibitzer]

Would seem to be a logical question. Wasn't one of the alleged victims/person that lodged a complaint a Baylor soccer player?

Yes, Ms Hernandez was a soccer player and she and her parents did a hell of a lot more than merely lodging a complaint. More like tightening the noose around the necks of Messrs. Starr and Briles.

 

[Charliebball]

I know that religion is one of those "third rail" issues but I have noticed that many of the Texas WBB players are very religious based on their twitter statements and that seems to go hand and hand with their athletic endeavors.........that may be one reason that they feel comfortable going to a school like Baylor or Notre Dame................I'd be curious to know if this issue will effect their feelings about Baylor in general. Needless to say, I think any parent of a college age girl would certainly have some concerns after reading what has been taking place there.

 

[Fairfield Fan]

And it is even more damning that the findings against Baylor came from Pepper Hamilton, the law firm that universities and colleges go to to whitewash their failings to keep women safe from assault on their campuses:

Rape Victims Don't Trust The Fixers Colleges Hire To Help Them

In a 2013 profile in The American Lawyer, Gina Smith and Leslie Gomez of Pepper Hamilton "were called 'part of the scandal cleanup crew' for (their) most 'high-profile engagements,' including Occidental College, Amherst College, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and the University of California at Berkeley, all schools currently under investigation by the United States Department of Education for allegedly violating federal law regarding on-campus sexual assault.

"But while college presidents love Smith and Gomez, many of the women who forced their universities to hire consultants in the first place loathe them. Complainants across the country told BuzzFeed that they believed their institutions were paying Smith and Gomez to clean up messes by paying lip service to federal compliance. Although some students and faculty members praised their work, others said the retention of Smith and Gomez — who acknowledged that they’ve never read a student complaint — encourage their schools to crack down on activists instead of rapists and to adopt boilerplate policies instead of calling out inept administrators."

And that was what happened at Occidental College, which was prominently featured in the documentary on campus rape and sexual assault, "The Hunting Ground."

So for Pepper Hamilton to have been so scathing in their report on Baylor, it means that the situation was probably much worse than what has come out so far.

 

[Fairfield Fan]

Baylor University's mission statement

Baylor University || About Baylor || Mission

Yeah. The mission is "to educate men and women for worldwide leadership and service by integrating academic excellence and Christian commitment within a caring community."

Tell us how "caring" that Baylor community has been to women raped by athletes. Tell us about Ken Starr's "Christian commitment" to them and to "service."

So tell me again why any parent would want to send his or her daughter into that environment. Remember, Ken Starr remains "chancellor" of the university and professor emeritus. No change there.

You know, Connecticut colleges and universities have not been immune to campus assault and mishandling of their complaints by university officials. But at least here the universities and the state government moved quickly to correct the situation.

 

[UcMiami]

So ... is the NCAA going to step in and hammer Baylor like they hammered PSU?! I mean this involved college scholarship athletes competing on the field while their coaches knew they were guilty of at minimum sexual assault and in some situations rape. Seems like that was effecting interscholastic athletic competition significantly more than what was happening at PSU.

 

[alexrgct]

The effect?

• More Dancing
• More Skin on HBO

 

[bags27]

So Ken Starr is fired for failing to investigate allegations of sexual misconduct at Baylor. Long live irony.

Starr was NOT fired; he was demoted: he retains tenure and probably most of his salary (which was $800k in 2014).

Mr. Starr was stripped of his title as university president but will remain Baylor’s chancellor and a professor at the law school. The chancellor position is “centered around development and religious liberty,” said a regent on a conference call Thursday afternoon, who added that Mr. Starr’s “operational responsibilities have been removed.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/s...rt-briles-kenneth-starr-college-football.html

 

[huskeynut]

Baylor is in deep doo-doo. This will set the football program back for several years. Athletes will probably, make that should be, removed from the team. Its going to have an effect on recruiting on football and maybe other sports.

There could also be criminal and civil charges brought for covering up these assaults and not reporting them to the proper authorities.

This is definitely a major blow to Baylor as a private, Christian university.

I don't expect the NCAA to do anything.

 

[Fairfield Fan]

Starr was NOT fired; he was demoted: he retains tenure and probably most of his salary (which was $800k in 2014).

Mr. Starr was stripped of his title as university president but will remain Baylor’s chancellor and a professor at the law school. The chancellor position is “centered around development and religious liberty,” said a regent on a conference call Thursday afternoon, who added that Mr. Starr’s “operational responsibilities have been removed.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/s...rt-briles-kenneth-starr-college-football.html

He's still involved in "religious liberty"? Incredible.