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Message: [QUOTE="Deadrody, post: 2750521, member: 937"] You do understand that the official CPI number specifically EXCLUDES energy prices, i.e. oil and gas ? You also understand that the official CPI number has been manipulated into meaninglessness ? Meanwhile, you conflate "blue collar job" with "HS grad pay". I virtually guarantee an actual blue collar job, like plumber, electrician, or welder pays the same, or even more than it did in 1985. Can you GET a job like that out of HS ? Almost definitely not, but that's a whole different story about how tons of blue collar jobs have departed, replaced by the service economy. I'm also not sure your car purchasing experience in 1985 is representative. I bought a car in 1986, it was a 1982 Olds Omega that also had 50K left in it, maybe more. It cost $1800 at the time. [/QUOTE]