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OT: The Sopranos 20th Anniverary

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As a Seinfeld savant, I hate the last 2 seasons and the finale.

Do I blame them? Eh, not really... they did almost everything they could do in that show, comedically. But it does sting a bit.

I don’t hate the Sopranos finale, but I understand the hardcore fans who watched it live and were peeved.
 
Mr. French said:
As a Seinfeld savant, I hate the last 2 seasons and the finale.

Do I blame them? Eh, not really... they did almost everything they could do in that show, comedically. But it does sting a bit.

I don’t hate the Sopranos finale, but I understand the hardcore fans who watched it live and were peeved.
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Thats when Larry David left. No coincidence
 
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August_West said:
Nope.

Its a flat out genius ending too. And all the clues from all the episodes leading up to it tell you exactly how it ended.

I love that Chase didnt pander to the lazy who need things in neat bows without thinking.
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He did feel the need to explain it at some point afterwards tho, I’ll see if I can find it. It confirms what I and probably most of us had surmised.

Maybe it was controversial at the time, but I’ve always thought it was so absolutely perfect. It left me freaking gobsmacked watching it live. I still think of it with awe creeping up in my mind.
8893 said:
That's part of the lore now though. And I like it better the more time has passed.

And no one posting in this thread can hear "All That You Dream" or "Don't Stop Believin'" without thinking of it.
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Journey and the Sopranos will never not be connected for me. Starts to give me the chills every time if I let it.
 
I put The Sopranos over The Wire as I believe the unbelievable sequences in each show were more believable in the former. I thought The Wire was great, but using the ridiculous after-hours drinking scenes with Jimmy and Bunk to advance the narrative lowered my opinion of the overall writing.
 
About a year ago I tried to start watching Sopranos. Made it 3-4 episodes through season 1.

Never watched it while it was on air and it just seemed like I was going too far back in time.

Consensus is Tony got whacked in finale as scene fades to black?
 
The Sopranos were victorious. There were no consequences for anything any of them did, down to Meadow playing bumper cars outside the diner.
 
This is pretty good. Though the Tony Sirico parts kinda make me sad.

 
storrsroars said:
I put The Sopranos over The Wire as I believe the unbelievable sequences in each show were more believable in the former. I thought The Wire was great, but using the ridiculous after-hours drinking scenes with Jimmy and Bunk to advance the narrative lowered my opinion of the overall writing.
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What was ridiculous about the Bunk and Jimmy drinking scenes?
 
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superjohn said:
What was ridiculous about the Bunk and Jimmy drinking scenes?
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Unrealistic. If you know cops and you know drunks and you know drunk cops, that's not how it works.
 
storrsroars said:
Unrealistic. If you know cops and you know drunks and you know drunk cops, that's not how it works.
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How so, I'm genuinely interested? They would just shoot the sh ^t after work drinking and looking to get laid. I know a lot of drunks like that. I don't know a bunch of cops but the cops I do know are pretty much like that.
 
superjohn said:
How so, I'm genuinely interested? They would just shoot the sh ^t after work drinking and looking to get laid. I know a lot of drunks like that. I don't know a bunch of cops but the cops I do know are pretty much like that.
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Not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the heavy drinking till incapacitated stuff where they drive out somewhere, throw bottles around and generally act like 15 year olds after their first bottle of Southern Comfort (and get back in their cars and show up for work the next day not much the worse for wear). Far too much of that. The stuff inside bars I can accept.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Rewatching Sopranos. Season 3, Episode 1 is one of my favorite episodes of any show ever.
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I've been rewatching it the last few weeks or so. Tony Soprano is the greatest TV character of all time. What a show. So many iconic moments
 
crazyUCfan23 said:
I've been rewatching it the last few weeks or so. Tony Soprano is the greatest TV character of all time. What a show. So many iconic moments
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Been saying that forever. He's the best character in the history of TV and film, IMO. The writing is excellent but I give all the credit to Gandolfini, nobody else could've pulled off that character as well as him.
 
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We’re just kinda on a perpetual rewatch of the Sopranos and Mad Men at this point. If we can’t figure out something else to watch, we’ll just flip on one of those two
 
I need to re-watch the series, it's been two years. What I remember most about the show is, unlike some other great shows, they never took an episode off.
 
I started rewatching the series in July. I’m now on my 2 time through since then (third time overall). It’s amazing how much I missed the first time watching the series. You pick up more on subtle lines and plot points.

I highly recommend people re-watch the show again or watch it for the first time. It truly is the greatest tv show of all time.
 
Too many episodes felt like homework to me. But I did like it at the end when everyone was getting whacked.
 
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I'm rewatching Peaky Blinders and the family/extended family and switching alliances owes a lot to The Sopranos that I find unmistakable (yet entirely well-done).

For the most part, Peaky Blinders is a fiction, so the writers can do whatever plots they want. A big part of PB's fiction is they moved the era up 20 years so it comes after WW1 and they basically substituted PTSD for bad parenting among the brothers/sisters and Roma roots for the "old country".
 
storrsroars said:
I'm rewatching Peaky Blinders and the family/extended family and switching alliances owes a lot to The Sopranos that I find unmistakable (yet entirely well-done).

For the most part, Peaky Blinders is a fiction, so the writers can do whatever plots they want. A big part of PB's fiction is they moved the era up 20 years so it comes after WW1 and they basically substituted PTSD for bad parenting among the brothers/sisters and Roma roots for the "old country".
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The Sopranos is the Beatles of TV. It created modern tv and every show that came after is either directly or indirectly influenced by it in some way
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Rewatching Sopranos. Season 3, Episode 1 is one of my favorite episodes of any show ever.
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Sopranos Season 3 is just a great season in general. Probably my favorite of the entire series. Credit to Joe Pantoliano for his portrayal of Ralph Cifaretto. That definitely added to the intensity of season 3. The Sopranos is just one of those shows where pretty much everything the creators touched turned to gold. Whether it was the storylines or the casting of the actors, everything just seemed to work almost perfect.
 
Guapo said:
The Sopranos is the Beatles of TV. It created modern tv and every show that came after is either directly or indirectly influenced by it in some way
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Television started in the 1950's, and there were only maybe 3-4 truly great dramas produced before the Sopranos. The Twilight Zone, ER, and Hill Street Blues are the only network TV shows before the Sopranos that I would consider "great". Some of the others that were very good, such as Twin Peaks and Freaks and Geeks, had very limited runs. Twin Peaks was essentially an extended miniseries and Freaks and Geeks failed miserably during its run. Other well reviewed shows, like My So Called Life, could not get nearly enough of an audience to survive. Some of the best shows from the first 40 years of television such as Star Trek: Next Generation, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, were syndicated or on secondary networks. Network television was not a great platform for high quality dramas.

The Sopranos changed all that, and began the golden age of prestige television. I believe the West Wing lasted as long as it did despite its high cost and mediocre ratings in a large part because NBC wanted a prestige drama to compete with the Sopranos. Cable channels like FX and AMC took off because the Sopranos showed that there was a market for high quality, niche television. There is a direct line from the Sopranos to Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Shield and Fargo.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Television started in the 1950's, and there were only maybe 3-4 truly great dramas produced before the Sopranos. The Twilight Zone, ER, and Hill Street Blues are the only network TV shows before the Sopranos that I would consider "great". Some of the others that were very good, such as Twin Peaks and Freaks and Geeks, had very limited runs. Twin Peaks was essentially an extended miniseries and Freaks and Geeks failed miserably during its run. Other well reviewed shows, like My So Called Life, could not get nearly enough of an audience to survive. Some of the best shows from the first 40 years of television such as Star Trek: Next Generation, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, were syndicated or on secondary networks. Network television was not a great platform for high quality dramas.

The Sopranos changed all that, and began the golden age of prestige television. I believe the West Wing lasted as long as it did despite its high cost and mediocre ratings in a large part because NBC wanted a prestige drama to compete with the Sopranos. Cable channels like FX and AMC took off because the Sopranos showed that there was a market for high quality, niche television. There is a direct line from the Sopranos to Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Shield and Fargo.
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Where would NYPD Blue and Law & Order fit in this construct?

NYPD Blue is the only cop show I ever watched. I suppose it was probably derivative of Hill Street Blues, but I never watched that show.

I can't stand the Law & Order franchise, but my wife can watch any iteration, anytime, any where. And it is one show that I think is always on at least one channel at any time of day.

LA Law probably deserves some props, too, but I never watched that, either.
 
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