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UCFBfan said:
What are they clearing in order to fit the stadium? Seems like the locals aren't so thrilled about this one. I do think it's a good move for Temple though. The article said they'd save $3 million a year just by having their on campus stadium.
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The parcel is university owned and current is the site several athletic venues that are already being moved to a different location. Neighbors are worried about traffic, especially as the road network between Temple and the highways is not great. That said, this may inject some more life into a neighborhood that is slowly improving. Philly is putting a lot of money to clean N Broad street up between City Center and Temple.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Good for Temple; but, tailgating will be seriously curtailed in that neighborhood due to a lack of parking options and street parking off campus is at one's own peril.
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The chances of finding your car on cinderblocks post-game are 50-50. The area is a dump, loaded with miscreants just waiting for an opportunity.
 
BlueDogs said:
The chances of finding your car on cinderblocks post-game are 50-50. The area is a dump, loaded with miscreants just waiting for an opportunity.
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Totally overblown. I've been to Temple somewhere from 15-20 times and parked my car on the street overnight and had no issues. Sure, you don't want to wander far away from the school, but tailgating will be fine
 
That would be great. Much rather go to a game on campus there than at the Linc. Seeing 10-20K in a 70K stadium is just depressing.
 
J187Money said:
That would be great. Much rather go to a game on campus there than at the Linc. Seeing 10-20K in a 70K stadium is just depressing.
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You know, I thought I'd feel the same way, but when I went to the Linc for this year's game I had a surprisingly good experience. The stadium is beautiful, tailgating scene was better than I'd anticipated, and the stadium got weirdly loud considering the number of people there. I kind of liked it. That being said, an on-campus stadium is always better. Makes me wish that UConn would follow suit
 
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uconnphil2016 said:
You know, I thought I'd feel the same way, but when I went to the Linc for this year's game I had a surprisingly good experience. The stadium is beautiful, tailgating scene was better than I'd anticipated, and the stadium got weirdly loud considering the number of people there. I kind of liked it. That being said, an on-campus stadium is always better. Makes me wish that UConn would follow suit
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An on campus stadium is ideal, but it's unrealistic for UConn. The locals would go crazy. And since 80% of the fans come from south and west of Hartford, the East Hartford location is the best option.

Besides, UConn is like the state's pro team. No campus is necessary.
 
uconnphil2016 said:
You know, I thought I'd feel the same way, but when I went to the Linc for this year's game I had a surprisingly good experience. The stadium is beautiful, tailgating scene was better than I'd anticipated, and the stadium got weirdly loud considering the number of people there. I kind of liked it. That being said, an on-campus stadium is always better. Makes me wish that UConn would follow suit
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I didn't go this year. I went 4 or 5 years back - the same year as the @ Michigan game. It was awful. My guess is attendance this year was probably double (yes I could look it up but I'm not going to).
 
Reading articles like this is always devastating. Long live Memorial Stadium. Forever our achilles heel in recruitment
 
The high schools in Texas have stadiums that cost $65-$70 million.

Temple should be able to build their stadium.
 
coachcap said:
Sounds like there are NIMBY's all over the City of Brotherly Love. The rhetoric of the Temple neighbors sounds just like what Villanova's neighbors spew every time Villanova contemplates a capital construction project.
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The crazy part is that Temple is pretty much all that area has going for it. If it's in your backyard, your backyard became a much nicer place over the past 20 years. Villanova's neighborhood has plenty of 1%-ers, there's no real need for the university to prop up the community..
 
BlueDogs said:
The chances of finding your car on cinderblocks post-game are 50-50. The area is a dump, loaded with miscreants just waiting for an opportunity.
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5 to 10 years ago that's absolutely accurate but there's been a lot of improvements to the north of the bridge in northern liberties, fishtown, spring garden, and Fairmont. The investments are starting to spill over to Temple's area. The odds are probably 25 - 75 you find your car on a cinderblock and getting lower every year.
 
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Drew said:
Awesome news for them. Hopefully they can get it done, college football is better when it's played on campus.
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with all that real estate around Mansfield/Storrs/Wilmington, you'd think we'd have one nearby too...
 
ktuck911 said:
with all that real estate around Mansfield/Storrs/Wilmington, you'd think we'd have one nearby too...
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If we choose Wilmington I hope we do North Carolina and not Delaware. NC would be better for recruiting (and closer to my house)
 
http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-foot...alls-example-on-out-of-conference-scheduling/

huskypantz said:
I can't imagine tailgating. Everyone has a story about a grill that's been stolen at the Rent. Temple makes the Rent look like Mayberry. For the larger donors, I'm sure they'll be in a lot that is well patrolled during and after the game. If you have a large enough parking lot or lots, it will be impossible to keep the riff raff out.
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Temple has a well-armed, well-trained, 150-man police force .... there will be 5 large lots for tailgating around the stadium and each will be patrolled by many policemen from before opening until well after closing. You are safer there than you would be at the Linc.

tailgates.jpg
 
papreps said:
http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-foot...alls-example-on-out-of-conference-scheduling/


Temple has a well-armed, well-trained, 150-man police force .... there will be 5 large lots for tailgating around the stadium and each will be patrolled by many policemen from before opening until well after closing. You are safer there than you would be at the Linc.

tailgates.jpg
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Sounds like Yankee Stadium back in the '90's. not a place to walk around at night during the off-season; but, on game night, NYPD turned it into an armed camp.
 
Since the formation of the American Athletic Conference we've seen Houston and Tulane both build new on campus stadiums and now potentially Temple as well. Love the athletic commitment the schools are showing with these types of projects.
 
Drew said:
Since the formation of the American Athletic Conference we've seen Houston and Tulane both build new on campus stadiums and now potentially Temple as well. Love the athletic commitment the schools are showing with these types of projects.
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Common denominator - they all have access to larger nearby "NFL Stadiums" for premium/high attendance games. Best of both worlds.
 
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huskymedic said:
Still a long way to go in addressing neighborhood/community concerns but...

Temple selects architect for stadium
http://www.philly.com/philly/education/20160329_Temple_selects_architect_for_stadium.html
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I think this is going to happen. Remember, it won't be just Temple football here. I can see E Pennsylvania High School Championships (football, soccer, lax) and other sporting events taking place here (this may make PPL Park in Chester a little nervous, though it is a smaller venue at 18,500). The city is really focused on developing the neighborhood in between Temple and City Center an this type of a 'marquee' building can draw in more private developers if it is done right. Draw in a couple thousand Millennials into the area who want that 'new urban' lifestyle plus Temple's existing student body of +30K and there is enough mass to draw in retail and other lifestyle developers. The only downside is that connecting this site to the highway network is tricky as N Broad St between City Center/I-676 and Temple is already a bottleneck and the hoods in between Temple and I-95 to the East are not the best. Thus, I see the next step to be a big push to expand and modernize the Temple SEPTA train station and the blocks between the station and Temple. That will allow Temple to draw families from the burbs to the game with a direct train connection. Not great for tailgating; but, that was never going to a big draw for an urban university.

PS - In case anyone asks why I know this, I have several clients in Philly, some of whom went to Temple as an undergrad or grad (MBA or Law) and this is big news to them. One person who has worked in Philly and Newark NJ compares the potential in this part of Philly to what is taking place around Red Bulls Arena in Harrison NJ across from Newark, except that there is a 30K college already on-site.
 
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My view ...

Philadelphia is a city with tons of opportunity in the infill areas. Temple looks awful. But in the 3-4 years I've been watching, there's a lot of good things happening within blocks of Broad Street. I'm encouraged by the Stadium idea. But the main thrust is community that is coming from new residential.

Unlike ... NYC for instance ... You can still find a Dollar store a block away from the Ritz Carlton in Center City.
 
College football a tough sell in large urban cities. Not just in football , but also have to compete against pro baseball, basketball, and hockey. Nothing is cheap anymore. A person sports / entertainment budget goes only so far. If your not a winning program, it's twice as tough to sell. It will be interesting to see what effect putting 2 NFL teams in L.A. will do to USC + UCLA fan base.
 
tiger paw said:
College football a tough sell in large urban cities. Not just in football , but also have to compete against pro baseball, basketball, and hockey. Nothing is cheap anymore. A person sports / entertainment budget goes only so far. If your not a winning program, it's twice as tough to sell. It will be interesting to see what effect putting 2 NFL teams in L.A. will do to USC + UCLA fan base.
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Those 2 fan bases didn't have a problem when the Rams were there before...and they won't have a problem now.
 
UCLA degree holder

The Rams, or any other Pro team, will have little effect on UCLA or USC attendance or attraction. If those Programs have winning football ... They do great. USC - after the Pete Carroll rise - may have a solid core non alum level unknown previously.

When I went to the Rans games in Anaheim, it wasn't a good experience. The NEW NFL entrant will be light years beyond.
 
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Pudge said:
My view ...

Philadelphia is a city with tons of opportunity in the infill areas. Temple looks awful. But in the 3-4 years I've been watching, there's a lot of good things happening within blocks of Broad Street. I'm encouraged by the Stadium idea. But the main thrust is community that is coming from new residential.

Unlike ... NYC for instance ... You can still find a Dollar store a block away from the Ritz Carlton in Center City.
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Unfortunately there are a lot of bad things still happening around Temple.

Mob attacks Temple students, police, horse
 
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