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OT: Snow Removal From Your Car Before Driving

nelsonmuntz said:
If you can not come to a complete stop if the car in front of you stops short, you are tailgating. BOTH of the links in Post #173 refer to 3-4 seconds behind in good conditions, more in the winter. What have I said repeatedly throughout this thread?

So how was tailgating not a factor in that video? I stop watched it 5 times. The ice was in the air for less than 2 seconds. So obviously, if something, anything comes off the car in front of you and you hit it in less that 2 seconds, you were following two close. If that front car hit a rock and stopped short, the car behind it would have crashed into it. That is the definition of traveling too close. If the second car was more than 3 seconds back, the ice would have smashed harmlessly on the road.

Why do you people insist on defending tailgating? Find me a website on safe driving that recommends following less than 2 seconds behind the car in front of you in the winter.
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It's less about defending tailgating and more about you using the tailgating argument as a defense for not needing to remove snow off your car's roof if it has less than three inches of snow. People should be doing both things for safe driving. And the distance between cars should be adjusted depending on driving conditions.

You still have not admitted you are wrong in the five percent of times you don't have your car in the garage and snow is on the roof.

The way you approached this thread is to not back down on your failure. Yet you get angry when people persist on making claims how the BE stinks. You insist they change. But can't do so yourself when you're so obviously in the wrong.
 
ctchamps said:
It's less about defending tailgating and more about you using the tailgating argument as a defense for not needing to remove snow off your car's roof if it has less than three inches of snow. People should be doing both things for safe driving. And the distance between cars should be adjusted depending on driving conditions.

You still have not admitted you are wrong in the five percent of times you don't have your car in the garage and snow is on the roof.

The way you approached this thread is to not back down on your failure. Yet you get angry when people persist on making claims how the BE stinks. You insist they change. But can't do so yourself when you're so obviously in the wrong.
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I park in a garage (#13). I just checked my car TWICE in response to your post. There is no snow on it. Not a single flake.

This thread is absolutely about people defending their own reckless driving by blaming someone else. Complaining about some hypothetical ice sheet that could theoretically fly off a car and come down 5 miles back with the strength of the meteor in Deep Impact is all a justification for tailgating. Everyone, including you, have two choices:

1) Yell at strangers in a thread on a sports message board about snow on their cars that is not actually on their cars in order to justify your tailgating, or
2) Stop tailgating, which is advice that literally everyone involved in cars and road safety gives, and make the roads safer for everyone.

You are choosing #1. That makes you a/an ******* (pick whatever pejorative you want to insert there). You are just flat out wrong.
 
I cleared my roof off four times but proceeded to tailgate and weave from lane to lane on 84 because I am crazy. After 20 minutes of this, I hit the car wash. My man there told me we are announcing all sports to the American soon
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If you can not come to a complete stop if the car in front of you stops short, you are tailgating. BOTH of the links in Post #173 refer to 3-4 seconds behind in good conditions, more in the winter. What have I said repeatedly throughout this thread?

So how was tailgating not a factor in that video? I stop watched it 5 times. The ice was in the air for less than 2 seconds. So obviously, if something, anything comes off the car in front of you and you hit it in less that 2 seconds, you were following two close. If that front car hit a rock and stopped short, the car behind it would have crashed into it. That is the definition of traveling too close. If the second car was more than 3 seconds back, the ice would have smashed harmlessly on the road.

Why do you people insist on defending tailgating? Find me a website on safe driving that recommends following less than 2 seconds behind the car in front of you in the winter.
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Comparing apples and horses here. This is not tailgating, and the road conditions are being ignored.

Think of the different physics in play with a snow/ice sheet (which immediately turned into a sail brake, and had vertical movement, in addition to horizontal), and a moving car. This was not "2 seconds behind a car"
 
ctchamps said:
It's less about defending tailgating and more about you using the tailgating argument as a defense for not needing to remove snow off your car's roof if it has less than three inches of snow. People should be doing both things for safe driving. And the distance between cars should be adjusted depending on driving conditions.

You still have not admitted you are wrong in the five percent of times you don't have your car in the garage and snow is on the roof.

The way you approached this thread is to not back down on your failure. Yet you get angry when people persist on making claims how the BE stinks. You insist they change. But can't do so yourself when you're so obviously in the wrong.
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Exactly this! Imagine being related to this guy? Having to spend holidays with him. Brutal lol
 
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pepband99 said:
Comparing apples and horses here. This is not tailgating, and the road conditions are being ignored.

Think of the different physics in play with a snow/ice sheet (which immediately turned into a sail brake, and had vertical movement, in addition to horizontal), and a moving car. This was not "2 seconds behind a car"
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The ice sheet was in the air less than 2 seconds, and it hit the front of the hood and windshield of a car. It is also worth pointing out that the car that was hit was passing other cars on the highway easily, implying a high rate of speed for that car. It didn't slow down, which increased the force of the impact.

You are literally defending tailgating with every post. Every single site that discusses winter driving or just driver's safety will tell you stay 3-4 seconds behind the car in front of you, more if there is any kind of difficult conditions. One of the benefits of staying back is that you can slow down and/or stop if something happens in front of you. The rear car could have avoided the situation by tapping its brakes rather than pass other cars on the highway.

The simple solution is: Do Not Tailgate. The second simple solution is: Slow Down.
 
I saw on the news this morning a clip from NJ where a guy had purchased an electronic drone type snowblower. Just set it and forget like a Roomba and your driveway is done. Supposedly can get up to 5000sf per charge while removing up to a foot of snow.
 
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Dutch Boyd said:
Exactly this! Imagine being related to this guy? Having to spend holidays with him. Brutal lol
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Leebo said:
If something flies off that car into the oncoming lane, would it be the oncoming car's fault for "tailgating"? That seems to be the only conclusion I can draw from the possibilities outlined in this thread.
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You bring up a great point. If snow on a vehicle moving one direction flies off in a different direction, it would definitely be a problem for another driver. If that snow converted itself into a hydrogen bomb and spontaneously detonated, that would also be a problem.

Don't tailgate.
 
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Based on forecast it will be Feb 3rd before above freezing and my car is entombed in 6ft of ice and snow courtesy of plows and shovelers.

At least I don't need it for daily commute but will try chipping away at it little by little.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
It is telling that in 6 hours no one has pointed out that all 3 cars on the right behind the white truck are tailgating.
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Probably because that's not tailgating. I drive on I-93 and I-84 quite a bit I know tailgating when I see it.
 
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