OT: Scotch thread

[HuskyHawk]

Just bought a bottle with a gift card I was given for my birthday. Completely underwhelmed. I have friends who absolutely swear by it. The flavor profile was just bland. When it comes to the non-peated realm, the Glenfiddich 15 Solera is so much better at a $15 lower pricepoint.

Interesting. Springbank 10 isn't "non-peated". It's definitely peated, but not heavily. Never heard it described as bland, even among those who aren't fans. But it's never bad to like something that is easy to get. Glenfiddich 15 is cheap at BJs.

 

[AreBee1969]

Interesting. Springbank 10 isn't "non-peated". It's definitely peated, but not heavily. Never heard it described as bland, even among those who aren't fans. But it's never bad to like something that is easy to get. Glenfiddich 15 is cheap at BJs.

Right, poor choice of words on my part.

I gravitate to the Islay peat monsters, so Springbank is LESS-peated than my usual whiskies. In addition to the Glenfiddich 15, I enjoy several lesser-peated Scotches such as Oban, Highland Park, and several of the Balvenies. Talisker, although lesser-peated than Laphroaig, Lagavulin and Ardbeg, is still pretty heavily-peated. Speaking of Talisker, I used to pay under $70 for a bottle of 18-YO, now it's over $150! Ridiculous!

 

[HuskyHawk]

Right, poor choice of words on my part.

I gravitate to the Islay peat monsters, so Springbank is LESS-peated than my usual whiskies. In addition to the Glenfiddich 15, I enjoy several lesser-peated Scotches such as Oban, Highland Park, and several of the Balvenies. Talisker, although lesser-peated than Laphroaig, Lagavulin and Ardbeg, is still pretty heavily-peated. Speaking of Talisker, I used to pay under $70 for a bottle of 18-YO, now it's over $150! Ridiculous!

Prices are a problem unless you find a cheap one you like. I'm eager to try Oban Little Bay now that it is $35 instead of $70. Had 2 ounces of Longrow Single Cask 15 year Chardonnay finish last night and loved it. Which sucks, because it's $150. The Talisker Distiller's Edition is pretty solid around $75.

 

[sledog]

JW black for 'everyday', and Macallan for other - good / affordable.

 

[AreBee1969]

Prices are a problem unless you find a cheap one you like. I'm eager to try Oban Little Bay now that it is $35 instead of $70. Had 2 ounces of Longrow Single Cask 15 year Chardonnay finish last night and loved it. Which sucks, because it's $150. The Talisker Distiller's Edition is pretty solid around $75.

Lagavulin on sale at Crazy Bruce's for $70.99. Laph 10 for $40.99. A few others as well including Oban Little Bay for $39.99.

http://www.crazybruces.com/uploads/files/current-ad/current_ad.pdf

 

[geordi]

(To be read with an Irish brogue.)

Not to highjack this thread cause there are some great scotches around, the Macallen 18 for one, but try some Irish. It's smoother, much tastier, while still having the desired snob appeal. For everyday use, I'd suggest Tullamore Dew, a cheeky little beverage (they call it the 'rascal of the pot still). No bite, smooth vanilla aftertaste that will make you want another. And it's only about $26 a fifth.

For those ultra special occasions (like when you are alone and don't want to share), pick up a bottle of Midleton's Very Rare. At $170 per or more, it's pricey, but more than worth it. It'll reinforce your faith in leprechauns, pots of gold, and Finn McCool. Fine Irish sippin' whisky. Enjoy!

 

[8893]

(To be read with an Irish brogue.)

Not to highjack this thread cause there are some great scotches around, the Macallen 18 for one, but try some Irish. It's smoother, much tastier, while still having the desired snob appeal. For everyday use, I'd suggest Tullamore Dew, a cheeky little beverage (they call it the 'rascal of the pot still). No bite, smooth vanilla aftertaste that will make you want another. And it's only about $26 a fifth.

For those ultra special occasions (like when you are alone and don't want to share), pick up a bottle of Midleton's Very Rare. At $170 per or more, it's pricey, but more than worth it. It'll reinforce your faith in leprechauns, pots of gold, and Finn McCool. Fine Irish sippin' whisky. Enjoy!

Big fan of the Irish pure pot stills, but I live in the space between Tullamore Dew and Middleton's. Green Spot is my favorite and I also like Red Breast 12 year.

 

[Husky25]

(To be read with an Irish brogue.)

Not to highjack this thread cause there are some great scotches around, the Macallen 18 for one, but try some Irish. It's smoother, much tastier, while still having the desired snob appeal. For everyday use, I'd suggest Tullamore Dew, a cheeky little beverage (they call it the 'rascal of the pot still). No bite, smooth vanilla aftertaste that will make you want another. And it's only about $26 a fifth.

For those ultra special occasions (like when you are alone and don't want to share), pick up a bottle of Midleton's Very Rare. At $170 per or more, it's pricey, but more than worth it. It'll reinforce your faith in leprechauns, pots of gold, and Finn McCool. Fine Irish sippin' whisky. Enjoy!

 

[sledog]

Big fan of the Irish pure pot stills, but I live in the space between Tullamore Dew and Middleton's. Green Spot is my favorite and I also like Red Breast 12 year.

Isn't RB Irish?

 

[8893]

Isn't RB Irish?

Yes. As are Green Spot and Middleton’s.

 

[8893]

Caol Ila 12 is closer to the Lagavulin peat profile

I'm only about peat. I keep four bottles at all times:

- ...
- Caol Ila 12

Oh i forgot Caol Ila (mentioned in post above), also very good.

Finally picked this up tonight. Love at first sip. @HuskyHawk dead-on with the flavor profile being closest to Lagavulin. At $20 less, I'm sold. Thanks for the rec people.

 

[8893]

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[August_West]

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Spending time in a room heavily infused with the aroma of smoked grains cooking made my sweater smell like iodine and ashes for days. I found it delightful

Hang with me a couple days I'll have you smelling like Ash and you don't need a passport or plane ticket.

 

[HuskyHawk]

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Went to Scotland last June. Didn’t get to Islay though.

 

[8893]

Went to Scotland last June. Didn’t get to Islay though.

Yeah, we did England, Ireland and Wales two summers ago but didn't get to Scotland at all, so I figure another trip is in order. Probably not a family one though.

 

[storrsroars]

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Much as I would've loved to, I couldn't fit Islay into my itinerary when I was last there. It's a PITA to get to. But did spend some quality time at Cardhu (Speyside) and it was very interesting. Like most things European, what you really notice is "old". But end of the day, it's not all that much different than taking your first real winery tour.

I might do it again for Islay for Laga and a pub or two and a nice bike ride - you kinda have to commit to that island once you're there - but like with wineries, seen one, seen most of them.

 

[DALTX]

My first Caol Ila 12 is running low. What to get next? Talisker 10 or Laphroaig Quartercask (have tried neither yet)? Or another Caol?

 

[Danzz]

As a side note, the oak casks used in Scotland are mostly used American bourbon casks.
My personal favorite is Laphroaig Quartercask.

 

[8893]

My first Caol Ila 12 is running low. What to get next? Talisker 10 or Laphroaig Quartercask (have tried neither yet)? Or another Caol?

I don't know how or why this happened, but two weeks ago I found Lagavulin 16 at my local for $61. I bought two bottles. The first is almost gone already. Wish I had bought more.

 

[Lefty2one]

My first Caol Ila 12 is running low. What to get next? Talisker 10 or Laphroaig Quartercask (have tried neither yet)? Or another Caol?

Big peat/Islay fan: I don't like Talisker 10. I bought a bottle some years back and it sat on my shelf for a long time. IIRC it's the most fruity of the peaty scotches; the combo didn't work for me. It was quite different from the rest of the crew: Laphraiog, Lagavulin, Caol Ila, Ardbeg, etc - hopefully someone else can confirm.

I drink Quarter Cask more than any other scotch so I'll certainly recommend it. It's a better version of their 10 year; once you try it you'll probably never buy the 10 year again given the price proximity.

 

[storrsroars]

I drink Quarter Cask more than any other scotch so I'll certainly recommend it. It's a better version of their 10 year; once you try it you'll probably never buy the 10 year again given the price proximity.

Never tried any Laphroaig other than standard issue, which I don't like. Compared to Lagavulin 16, which I love and always have on hand, I've found the Laphroaig to be "medicine-y", probably the heavy iodine notes. Also get a flavor like burnt microwave popcorn. Just not enjoyable for me compared to other Islays.

I've been looking for something on par or better than Laga for 25 years, but no scotch has topped it for my palate. My issue is that here in PA, Lagavulin 16 is $92. Would love to find something less expensive that's as enjoyable. Laphroaig Quarter Cask 96 proof is only $60, so if that's more quaffable than the 10, I'd spend the money. But I can't really get a sense of whether I'd like it from these reviews, which are all over the map.

Also, anyone try Ardberg Uigeadail? Never had it, but sounds intriguing.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Never tried any Laphroaig other than standard issue, which I don't like. Compared to Lagavulin 16, which I love and always have on hand, I've found the Laphroaig to be "medicine-y", probably the heavy iodine notes. Also get a flavor like burnt microwave popcorn. Just not enjoyable for me compared to other Islays.

I've been looking for something on par or better than Laga for 25 years, but no scotch has topped it for my palate. My issue is that here in PA, Lagavulin 16 is $92. Would love to find something less expensive that's as enjoyable. Laphroaig Quarter Cask 96 proof is only $60, so if that's more quaffable than the 10, I'd spend the money. But I can't really get a sense of whether I'd like it from these reviews, which are all over the map.

Also, anyone try Ardberg Uigeadail? Never had it, but sounds intriguing.

Yes, the Uigeadaill is quite good. I think you might like Caol Ila 12 year. Profile is similar to Lagavulin. Laphroaig has a more medicinal peat that is rather different. Ardbeg is less medicinal than Lagavulin, more of a BBQ meat char profile. I would skip the Quarter Cask, although it is better than the 10 for someone who doesn't like that band-aid taste.

The bottle to grab right now for you is the Game of Thrones Lagavulin. Also, the 16 can be had for much less than $92 around New England.

 

[HuskyHawk]

My first Caol Ila 12 is running low. What to get next? Talisker 10 or Laphroaig Quartercask (have tried neither yet)? Or another Caol?

Depends on where you are and what you can find.

I found Talisker 10 recently for $40. That was a steal. You might like the GOT Lagavulin, and it won't be around for long. Longrow is my favorite peated malt, but it's different, more earthy and less smoky. Port Charlotte might be a great fit if you like Caol Ila.

Long term, look into Independent Bottlings. Signatory, Gordon & Macphail, and others. There is a lot of Ledaig, Caol Ila, Bowmore and other peated malts out there and they are usually a better value than original bottlings from the distillery.

 

[CL82]

I don't know how or why this happened, but two weeks ago I found Lagavulin 16 at my local for $61. I bought two bottles. The first is almost gone already. Wish I had bought more.

Feed a cold, drown a fever?

 

[8893]

Feed a cold, drown a fever?

Ha! Somewhat, but not with good Scotch! I actually poured a couple fingers of the Lagavulin on Sunday night, and then realized that I couldn't taste it well enough to waste it. Then I went back to the Grand Marnier, which has taken quite a hit since the flu came on. Had a bit of Calvados, too.

Tried some red wine last night for the first time since before the flu hit. It wasn't terrible, but I still can't taste well enough for it to be very enjoyable, either. Today seems to be much better so far though.

 

[storrsroars]

Yes, the Uigeadaill is quite good. I think you might like Caol Ila 12 year. Profile is similar to Lagavulin. Laphroaig has a more medicinal peat that is rather different. Ardbeg is less medicinal than Lagavulin, more of a BBQ meat char profile. I would skip the Quarter Cask, although it is better than the 10 for someone who doesn't like that band-aid taste.

The bottle to grab right now for you is the Game of Thrones Lagavulin. Also, the 16 can be had for much less than $92 around New England.

Good to hear on the Ardbeg. The GOT is a "special order" in PA, meaning it's not in state stores and I have to pay to have it shipped to my house or to my local store. Ridiculous gov't monopoly here. And yes, I usually buy my Laga on Long Island for $60-ish, but didn't make the annual Christmas relatives/booze-buying trip this year, so I'm down to one bottle.

 

[storrsroars]

Do you guys in CT and elsewhere in the Northeast have Westland American Single Malt (American Oak) in stores yet? We just got it here in PA. It's not really comparable to Islays for smokiness/peat, but it is "traditional Scotch" in that it follows use of malted barleys (mostly domestic US in this case) and does give you the leather/pipe tobacco notes along with vanilla and fruit.

I found it an interesting and enjoyable bottle that's not directly comparable to anything else in my cabinet. First had it at the Whisky Bar in Seattle (great place, btw, huge selection and total whisky nerds behind the bar) three years ago so am happy it's finally found its way to PA. It's about $65 here. I'd think fans of the Highlands and Speyside scotches would enjoy it.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Do you guys in CT and elsewhere in the Northeast have Westland American Single Malt (American Oak) in stores yet? We just got it here in PA. It's not really comparable to Islays for smokiness/peat, but it is "traditional Scotch" in that it follows use of malted barleys (mostly domestic US in this case) and does give you the leather/pipe tobacco notes along with vanilla and fruit.

I found it an interesting and enjoyable bottle that's not directly comparable to anything else in my cabinet. First had it at the Whisky Bar in Seattle (great place, btw, huge selection and total whisky nerds behind the bar) three years ago so am happy it's finally found its way to PA. It's about $65 here. I'd think fans of the Highlands and Speyside scotches would enjoy it.

Yes, like most craft it is way overpriced for what it is. Very young, which is its downfall. Needs a lot more time in barrel, and the new charred oak adds a lot of wood, without the effect of time. It's drinkable, but not a great use of $65.

Mad River in Vermont makes a single malt too, they distill beer. So it has hops in it as well. The latest one is v3 and they distilled a pretty good Double IPA (Tribute). Pretty unique profile.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

hmmm… I may have to change my BY default bias from 'who cares what you think? you taught me nuthin' to 'maybe some here do more than change feet when they open their mouth.' reading this thread can do that to a fellow. so, thanks for that, cuz I likes to larn me sum stuff. 'course, when I saw the title 'Scotch Thread,' all this yankee hillbilly thought was 'noice, they gonna talk aboot the scotchfolks who started making 'murican corn likker down in Old Bourbon county in virginny back in the day.' guess not. sure would be nice, though. 'peaty and mediciney?' yikes. on the udder hand, ya skooled me......a lot. props.

 

[HuskyHawk]

At the risk of ridicule, I post my Scotch reviews on Reddit at r/Scotch (Bourbon too, and Rum on occasion). Scotch Whisky My handle is WildOscar66. HuskyHawk was unfortunately taken, so I had to assume a different moniker. The latest was 4 days ago, #83. Should hit 100 this spring. Learned a lot doing that, especially reviewing things blind.

New one just went up. Reviewed last night.