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Finnau, JT and Simpson were very good, but Molinari practically won the thing by himself. lol
 
Poulter and the Euros kick our d1^ks in every time they hold one of these
 
Jaker said:
Do the players get any money from this thing?
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I think they get something they can donate to a charity of their choice, which only started two or three Cups ago. But no direct money other than expenses.

superjohn said:
Poulter and the Euros kick our d1^ks in every time they hold one of these
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Furyk screwed up adding Phil for sure, and playing Woods 4x.

Bjorn's Captains Picks (Casey/Poulter/Garcia/Stenson): 9.5 points in 14 matches.
Furyk's Captains Picks (Tiger/Phil/Dechambeau/Finau): 2 points in 12 matches - both points from Finau.
 
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jleves said:
It's funny how people don't understand how large the US is. US population is 326,766,748. The combined populations of the countries represented (Ireland, England, Spain, Italy, Denmark & Sweden) is 192,603,161. That's 134,163,587 more people in the US than those 6 European countries combined.
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Continental Europe is eligible since 1979 and that’s 741 million people. Granted they are not repped so far because all they care about is soccer. 17 1/2 to 10 1/2 is a thrashing and boring to watch, imagine if they cared! the event is a turkey IMO. I’ll tune in to golf when the Masters tees up in April.
 
Typical gutless performance by the Americans. I don't know if it's indifference or if they're resigned to being beaten but their body language all week (save for Thomas) was horrible.

DJ is such a spiritless soul. Tiger and Phil were disasters. Bubba's never won a singles match. Reed and Spieth made their divorce public. Good riddance Furyk.
 
jibsey said:
Continental Europe is eligible since 1979 and that’s 741 million people. Granted they are not repped so far because all they care about is soccer. 17 1/2 to 10 1/2 is a thrashing and boring to watch, imagine if they cared! the event is a turkey IMO. I’ll tune in to golf when the Masters tees up in April.
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The Masters, lol. Talk about your contrived boring events. Someone once called that "a major" and it stuck. That's all. That's not golf. That's playing on a carpet with some flowers prettying things up. IMO, there are two majors that count: US Open and Open Championship. Y'know, where they actually have rough that penalizes and accuracy counts for something.

Nobody should ever be able to shoot -18 on a "majors" course. Time to pinch the fairways and plant some gorse on that rich white guy playground. Hell, just keep it on the Tour but replace that "major" with an annual tourney at The Pines, or PGA West - which players lobbied to have removed as a Tour venue because it was too hard, lol (used to host the Bob Hope).
 
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storrsroars said:
The Masters, lol. Talk about your contrived boring events. Someone once called that "a major" and it stuck. That's all. That's not golf. That's playing on a carpet with some flowers prettying things up. IMO, there are two majors that count: US Open and Open Championship. Y'know, where they actually have rough that penalizes and accuracy counts for something.

Nobody should ever be able to shoot -18 on a "majors" course. Time to pinch the fairways and plant some gorse on that rich white guy playground. Hell, just keep it on the Tour but replace that "major" with an annual tourney at The Pines, or PGA West - which players lobbied to have removed as a Tour venue because it was too hard, lol (used to host the Bob Hope).
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The Masters isn’t a good major? That arguement will go far.
 
jibsey said:
The Masters isn’t a good major? That arguement will go far.
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The Masters is what happens when you let a bunch of millionaires tell a bunch of billionaires how to set up a course so they have no bad lies and everything looks great on TV. With the PGA moving to May and picking better venues, the annual Augusta magnolia festival has become the most pretentious, least compelling "major" on the Tour. Along with all the hushed Jim Nantz propaganda, sending immigrants out with blow dryers to make sure the flowers bloom on time and calling customers "patrons".

Let the spoiled brats go play Oronoque and see if they can hack that.
 
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storrsroars said:
The Masters is what happens when you let a bunch of millionaires tell a bunch of billionaires how to set up a course so they have no bad lies and everything looks great on TV. With the PGA moving to May and picking better venues, the annual Augusta magnolia festival has become the most pretentious, least compelling "major" on the Tour. Along with all the hushed Jim Nantz propaganda, sending immigrants out with blow dryers to make sure the flowers bloom on time and calling customers "patrons".

Let the spoiled brats go play Oronoque and see if they can hack that.
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I couldn't agree more, i love golf have not watched the masters in years.
 
storrsroars said:
The Masters, lol. Talk about your contrived boring events. Someone once called that "a major" and it stuck. That's all. That's not golf. That's playing on a carpet with some flowers prettying things up. IMO, there are two majors that count: US Open and Open Championship. Y'know, where they actually have rough that penalizes and accuracy counts for something.

Nobody should ever be able to shoot -18 on a "majors" course. Time to pinch the fairways and plant some gorse on that rich white guy playground. Hell, just keep it on the Tour but replace that "major" with an annual tourney at The Pines, or PGA West - which players lobbied to have removed as a Tour venue because it was too hard, lol (used to host the Bob Hope).
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Ironic you think the Open Championship is a real test yet Augusta is no longer a major worthy tract.

Pros tore up Carnoustie this year because the weather was benign.
St. Andrews gets ripped when weather is fine.
Go back a few years ago to Stenson/Mickelson or 40 years ago to Tom and Jack.
None of the Open courses can hold up against modern players unless weather intervenes.

Same thing with Augusta. If there's no wind and the course is soft, these guys can tear it up, especially the back 9.

Give Augusta an 8-10 mph wind and all of a sudden 280-284 is a winning score.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Ironic you think the Open Championship is a real test yet Augusta is no longer a major worthy tract.

Pros tore up Carnoustie this year because the weather was benign.
St. Andrews gets ripped when weather is fine.
Go back a few years ago to Stenson/Mickelson or 40 years ago to Tom and Jack.
None of the Open courses can hold up against modern players unless weather intervenes.

Same thing with Augusta. If there's no wind and the course is soft, these guys can tear it up, especially the back 9.

Give Augusta an 8-10 mph wind and all of a sudden 280-284 is a winning score.
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But weather often does intervene at The Open.

Toughest major championship courses of past 25 years. Augusta ain't on it.

In this century (since 2000), 11 of the 19 Masters champs shot -10 or better. Same as the PGA. There's really no solid reason to keep Augusta as a majors course other than "tradition".

Yes, I like seeing pros have to deal with adversity.
 
storrsroars said:
But weather often does intervene at The Open.

Toughest major championship courses of past 25 years. Augusta ain't on it.

In this century (since 2000), 11 of the 19 Masters champs shot -10 or better. Same as the PGA. There's really no solid reason to keep Augusta as a majors course other than "tradition".

Yes, I like seeing pros have to deal with adversity.
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I'm not worried about Augusta being the hardest. In 2017 Sergio won at -9 and Willett won in 2016 at -5.

That being said, I'm glad they bought the property to make #13 about 30 yards longer. Need to remove ability to hit over the corner. If someone like Bubba wants to hit a 40 yard bender to get around corner, that is skill. Hitting over top of trees is technology. Added length should make most second shots in to 13 over 200 yards which makes it harder to get ball to stop on correct part of green. Hopefully it makes the hole about a quarter to half shot more difficult.

Shinnecock is my bucket list course but USGA over did it this year. Could have let the course be as is and winning score would be about -6. No shame on that. USGA has been upost courses last decade. They made Pinehurst in to a crappy Muni. Only course that held their own as is were Merion and Oakmont.
 
Chin Diesel said:
I'm not worried about Augusta being the hardest. In 2017 Sergio won at -9 and Willett won in 2016 at -5.

That being said, I'm glad they bought the property to make #13 about 30 yards longer. Need to remove ability to hit over the corner. If someone like Bubba wants to hit a 40 yard bender to get around corner, that is skill. Hitting over top of trees is technology. Added length should make most second shots in to 13 over 200 yards which makes it harder to get ball to stop on correct part of green. Hopefully it makes the hole about a quarter to half shot more difficult.

Shinnecock is my bucket list course but USGA over did it this year. Could have let the course be as is and winning score would be about -6. No shame on that. USGA has been Spartacus-ing upost courses last decade. They made Pinehurst in to a crappy Muni. Only course that held their own as is were Merion and Oakmont.
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Merion is probably out of the future rotation due to logistics. Players were freaking out last time about the access, lack of decent hotels nearby and overall lack of infrastructure that other major venues have. Which is weird, IMO, as there's plenty of hotels and homes for rent in nearby King of Prussia and on the Main Line. But it is not a great venue for fans. It's not like Oakmont is on a heavily traveled road and there's even fewer hotels nearby out there - pretty much have to stay in Pittsburgh proper (and I've done the commute... it's a good 40 minutes from downtown).

Will be interested in seeing how The Country Club does in 2020. Last time they played a US Open there was 1963 and +9 was the winning score.
 
storrsroars said:
Merion is probably out of the future rotation due to logistics. Players were freaking out last time about the access, lack of decent hotels nearby and overall lack of infrastructure that other major venues have. Which is weird, IMO, as there's plenty of hotels and homes for rent in nearby King of Prussia and on the Main Line. But it is not a great venue for fans. It's not like Oakmont is on a heavily traveled road and there's even fewer hotels nearby out there - pretty much have to stay in Pittsburgh proper (and I've done the commute... it's a good 40 minutes from downtown).

Will be interested in seeing how The Country Club does in 2020. Last time they played a US Open there was 1963 and +9 was the winning score.
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it's 2022 and did you miss the 1988 US Open? Curtis Strange beat Faldo in a playoff after being tied at -6.
 
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The X Man said:
it's 2022 and did you miss the 1988 US Open? Curtis Strange beat Faldo in a playoff after being tied at -6.
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Yep, missed it. Thanks for the correction.

I'd still like to see them play on this as long as they're coming to Mass
 
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Patty Reed doing his best to explain in the media today why no one wants to play with Patty Reed...ever...
 
Heard on FAN that the US had an opportunity to play the course a week before the Ryder Cup and not one guy on the team took the opportunity.
 
Not sure about that, most were playing in the Tour Championship in Georgia. They had 2 years to familiarize themselves with the course. It's not difficult to zip down to Paris from England/Scotland as they're prepping for the British, or even go play the French Open at the course.

I get that it's an exhibition and all, but if they did care about the Ryder Cup as much as they say, more guys would have played the French Open, sent their caddies or played before/after the British Open.

I think only Justin Thomas played the French.

Kudos to the Europeans for selecting a course and setting it up to their strengths. They couldn't get into a long drive contest and they made sure it wouldn't be. And WTF was Furyk doing with some of his partnerships? Tiger was clearly drained - no sense in trotting him out 4 matches.
 
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The Funster said:
Heard on FAN that the US had an opportunity to play the course a week before the Ryder Cup and not one guy on the team took the opportunity.
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Most were in the FedEx. Not a free week.
 
and Tiger was whored out after his big win, making it rain takes effort
 
uconnfan68 said:
Played it, but they wouldn’t let us go to those tees. Not that I would have. :eek:
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What's crazy about that course is even from the green tees, which is a length less than 5800 yds, the slope rating is still 132.

So how'd you do?
 
Winning majors is what defines a golfers career, it ain’t the Ryder Cup. The last time I looked the Masters was a major. There isn’t a pro golfer alive that would trade a Masters win for a Ryder Cup. Turning golf into a team sport is fine but the interest doesn’t seem to be there compared to majors. I bet the ratings prove that.
 
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