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Barchi is a SERIOUS problem/future impediment for ANY coaching hire in ANY sport at RU. He threw Pernetti under the bus after he was duly notified of the Mike Rice situation...and the replacement has been an utter train wreck. What coach in the right mind would want to even interview with Hermann for that job right now.
 
freescooter said:
Duh! No kidding. But if what he did was ask if there was anything the guy could do like extra work that is hardly a federal case in my view. If the kid was getting an A there is no need to contact a prof and ask if he can do anything to get his grade up. So far at least from what I read Flood didn't ask him to change a grade. He asked if the player could do anything to EARN a passing grade. Big difference.
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A distinction without a difference. I think it's pretty common practice, but the key is to know your audience.
 
FDNY99 said:
Barchi is a SERIOUS problem/future impediment for ANY coaching hire in ANY sport at RU. He threw Pernetti under the bus after he was duly notified of the Mike Rice situation...and the replacement has been an utter train wreck. What coach in the right mind would want to even interview with Hermann for that job right now.
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Completely agree. Barchi, who has worked at UPenn and Thomas Jefferson Hospital in PA and has never been anywhere near a university with a major sports program, was hired personally by Governor Christie to oversee the complex and controversial merger of Rutgers with UMDNJ. He has no idea how to handle an athletic program. He was able to hide behind Pernetti, who did know what he was doing When the Rice scandal came out, Christie could not fire Barchi because that would have made him look weak regarding his White House aspirations, so Pernetti was sacrificed instead. In turn, Rutgers hired Hermann, who has been an unequivocal disaster ,and Rutgers leadership has no one else to sacrifice, except for Flood, who is liked in the local football circle. Ah, my tax dollars hard at work :mad:
 
If flood thought his actions were above board, why did he use his personal e-mail account?

What was written in the e-mail is not relevant. Messages are often conveyed by what is not written. An adjunct professor position is not exactly would is considered highly stable. It is entirely possible the professor would feel threatened by the $million football coach and feel pressured into giving special treatment to the athlete, when it wasn't deserved.

I totally disagree that there is nothing to see here.
 
Husky25 said:
If flood thought his actions were above board, why did he use his personal e-mail account?

What was written in the e-mail is not relevant. Messages are often conveyed by what is not written. An adjunct professor position is not exactly would is considered highly stable. It is entirely possible the professor would feel threatened by the $million football coach and feel pressured into giving special treatment to the athlete, when it wasn't deserved.

I totally disagree that there is nothing to see here.
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Just as a sidebar on adjuncts, my wife, who is an adjunct at a community college in NJ, which are run by the county and not the state, just had her hours cut by 25% due to budget issues. Higher education funding across the state of NJ is flat or trending down while enrollment is up. It's a major issue.
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
Just as a sidebar on adjuncts, my wife, who is an adjunct at a community college in NJ, which are run by the county and not the state, just had her hours cut by 25% due to budget issues. Higher education funding across the state of NJ is flat or trending down while enrollment is up. It's a major issue.
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Surprising/disappointing about the community college issue. Over the years I've seen a lot of kids choose to go the community college route over four year schools for the first two years. A woman I work with has a daughter that graduated from a top public/academy high school and chose community college over Rutgers, NYU (partial scholarship) and others for financial reasons.
 
Very weird stuff happening at Rutgers practice today. From Sam Hellman who covers RU from Scout.com.

  1. Sam Hellman ‏@SamHellmanScout 48m48 minutes ago
    Flood wrapped up his press conference with nothing new but there's a lot of time in the day. Strange afternoon at Rutgers.


  2. 11:58 AM - 3 Sep 2015

    Sam Hellman ‏@SamHellmanScout 52m52 minutes ago
    Rutgers coach Kyle Flood says he still expects to coach on Saturday. "I will be coaching the game on Saturday."


  3. 11:51 AM - 3 Sep 2015

    Sam Hellman ‏@SamHellmanScout 59m59 minutes ago
    Practice should end around noon at Rutgers. Never seen police control the entrance in my 8 years here.


  4. 11:47 AM - 3 Sep 2015

    Sam Hellman ‏@SamHellmanScout 1h1 hour ago
    Not only is there a police presence at the Hale Center entrance but AD Julie Hermann is at practice. Interesting. Stay tuned.

 
NYUConn said:
Very weird stuff happening at Rutgers practice today. From Sam Hellman who covers RU from Scout.com.

Sam Hellman ‏@SamHellmanScout 59m59 minutes ago
Practice should end around noon at Rutgers. Never seen police control the entrance in my 8 years here.

Sam Hellman ‏@SamHellmanScout 1h1 hour ago
Not only is there a police presence at the Hale Center entrance but AD Julie Hermann is at practice. Interesting. Stay tuned.
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Now know why the PD was there.. http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2015/09/multiple_rutgers_football_players_arrested.html
 
So you think Delany is doing a face palm yet again? Nobody ever died for dear old Rutgers!
 
freescooter said:
So you think Delany is doing a face palm yet again? Nobody ever died for dear old Rutgers!
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Cable Box University isn't in the B1G for their sports or academics. This changes nothing unless the school moves to Camden.
 
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huskymedic said:
Now know why the PD was there.. http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2015/09/multiple_rutgers_football_players_arrested.html
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Ditto in North Jersey and yet no word from the President nor AD event though it looks like some knew what was coming and this is going to get way more coverage than their home opener this weekend against powerhouse Norfolk St.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/fiv...-violent-crimes-suspended-from-team-1.1403423

Barchi can't be fired because of his tie to Christie. Hermann can't be fired because of her tie to Barchi, event though neither seem to know how to run a major athletic program. A head has to fall for this, my guess it will be Flood's. Not like Rutgers cares about performance on the field anyway. Harbough, Myer and Franklin will love this as it will make it easier for them to get players in one the key recruiting states.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Ditto in North Jersey and yet no word from the President nor AD event though it looks like some knew what was coming and this is going to get way more coverage than their home opener this weekend against powerhouse Norfolk St.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/fiv...-violent-crimes-suspended-from-team-1.1403423

Barchi can't be fired because of his tie to Christie. Hermann can't be fired because of her tie to Barchi, event though neither seem to know how to run a major athletic program. A head has to fall for this, my guess it will be Flood's. Not like Rutgers cares about performance on the field anyway. Harbough, Myer and Franklin will love this as it will make it easier for them to get players in one the key recruiting states.
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I don't think UM, tOSU, and PSU needed any more ammunition to outrecruit RU... Those schools sell themselves when compared to Rutgers. However, I do know of a certain school in the region that has done very well in NJ lately, that competes with RU for recruits fairly regularly, that could use this to their advantage...
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Convince him to come back? I half think Schiano hacked into Flood's email and sent the incriminating request.
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I enjoyed these few lines (leak):

>>A person close to Schiano made this perfectly clear on Thursday: He isn't even considering a return to Rutgers while his former assistant coach is still fighting for his job, but if Flood is ousted, he is certainly not coming back to Piscataway to work for Julie Hermann.

That would solve two problems with one move, replacing an ineffective and unpopular athletic director with someone who can provide real leadership for this department.<<
 
huskymedic said:
I enjoyed these few lines (leak):

>>A person close to Schiano made this perfectly clear on Thursday: He isn't even considering a return to Rutgers while his former assistant coach is still fighting for his job, but if Flood is ousted, he is certainly not coming back to Piscataway to work for Julie Hermann.

That would solve two problems with one move, replacing an ineffective and unpopular athletic director with someone who can provide real leadership for this department.<<
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Hermann isn't going anywhere right now...Barchi will back her up..and this all can be pinned on Flood. RU will be in a really bad jam if the fire Flood...because outside of a retread type like Pasqualoni no coach worth his weight will even want to be associated with those 2 (Barchi & Hermann). Who knows with Hermann's connections to Louisville and Jurich...maybe Garrick McGee will end up in the northeast after all if RU decides to fire Flood. I will say this though...Flood seems to be popular with the NJ HS coaches and can get his foot in the door to talk to Jersey kids. Not all that long ago that wasn't the case...until it was changed by Shady. When he bolted to the NFL and pissed them off, it was Flood who earned their trust and respect. It will be open market in NJ if Flood is fired and it will take a VERY long olive branch to mend this divide for the next RU head coach. I'm VERY glad I'm not a RU fan right now, because for as much joy as the B1G has brought, reality is a living nightmare of 2 incompetent morons being in charge!
 
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FDNY99 said:
Hermann isn't going anywhere right now...Barchi will back her up..and this all can be pinned on Flood. RU will be in a really bad jam if the fire Flood...because outside of a retread type like Pasqualoni no coach worth his weight will even want to be associated with those 2 (Barchi & Hermann). Who knows with Hermann's connections to Louisville and Jurich...maybe Garrick McGee will end up in the northeast after all if RU decides to fire Flood. I will say this though...Flood seems to be popular with the NJ HS coaches and can get his foot in the door to talk to Jersey kids. Not all that long ago that wasn't the case...until it was changed by Shady. When he bolted to the NFL and pissed them off, it was Flood who earned their trust and respect. It will be open market in NJ if Flood is fired and it will take a VERY long olive branch to mend this divide for the next RU head coach. I'm VERY glad I'm not a RU fan right now, because for as much joy as the B1G has brought, reality is a living nightmare of 2 incompetent morons being in charge!
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You are forgetting its actually 3 incompetent leaders right now - #3 being the guy who hired, Barchi, Governor Christie.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
You are forgetting its actually 3 incompetent leaders right now - #3 being the guy who hired, Barchi, Governor Christie.
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Christie says suspending accused Rutgers players was 'the appropriate thing'
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss...pp.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

>>The governor said his office has been receiving updates from Rutgers' president, Robert Barchi, and will continue to monitor the investigation.

"I only know what I read and I've obviously spoken to the chairman of the Board of Governors and also spoke to my own chief counsel," Christie said. "My staff is in continuous conversation with Dr. Barchi's office and if there's more we have to say we'll say more later today, but we're just getting information as it's coming in."<<
 
Looks like the kids will be the ones to die for dear old Rutgers.

Meanwhile, RU is tied in the second quarter in their annual battle with Norfolk St.
 
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huskymedic said:
Christie says suspending accused Rutgers players was 'the appropriate thing'
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss...pp.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

>>The governor said his office has been receiving updates from Rutgers' president, Robert Barchi, and will continue to monitor the investigation.

"I only know what I read and I've obviously spoken to the chairman of the Board of Governors and also spoke to my own chief counsel," Christie said. "My staff is in continuous conversation with Dr. Barchi's office and if there's more we have to say we'll say more later today, but we're just getting information as it's coming in."<<
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Translation from Gov Christie - Rutgers, that where, oh, New Jersey? Shot, I forgot that I am still the Governor there. Just going to ignore this until it goes away. Now, if this happened in New Hampshire or Iowa, I would fire the university president, AD, and hang those kids to show how tough I am to protect my non-existent Presidential aspirations.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Do they have any cornerbacks left?
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yeah they are all freshmen...I decided to watch the game while flipping around today...RU got stopped on 4th & 1 (run)..and just converted one (pass). Still 7-7
 
FDNY99 said:
yeah they are all freshmen...I decided to watch the game while flipping around today...RU got stopped on 4th & 1 (run)..and just converted one (pass). Still 7-7
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I'll check later. Watching a much existing game outside right now - Ramapo versus Bridgewater-Raritan in girl's soccer.
 
The Dark Side indeed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Darth Vader is involved in Rutgers&#39; halftime show right now.</p>&mdash; Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) <a href="">September 5, 2015</a></blockquote>
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HuskyFan16 said:
The Dark Side indeed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Darth Vader is involved in Rutgers&#39; halftime show right now.</p>&mdash; Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) <a href="">September 5, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Hmm, I thought it was going to be Jim Delany standing at the 50 yard line throwing nickels and dimes at Rutgers administrators crawling around on their knees saying "thank you daddy, may I have another?" in unison.
 
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