OT- rumor is that Ray Ray has been traded

[uconndennis]

looks like the Celtics just traded Ray.....havent heard where yet

 

[UConnMike04]

I heard this too, nothing confirmed though. I'd love it, I hate having him play for a team I despise.

 

[tykurez]

Nooooooooo

 

[upstater]

Ainge should step down, he is a disaster at GM.
Perkins, now Ray. Jeez.
He lucked out landing Garnett and Ray in the first place, and his drafting decisions have been putrid.

One player? Rondo? That's it? After all these years?

 

[jfuchs91]

I think it's just rumors right now. Apparently a lot of teams are looking at him and offering good packages, but nothing has happened yet.

 

[Dogdeacon]

With aging Garnett and BBass as their only competent frontcourt players the Celtics desperately need to blow it up and rebuild, but everyone knows this so they are only getting .50 - .75 on the dollar when shopping Ray or Rondo and no one wants to take a risk on Garnett. They need to get really lucky in the draft and since Rondo they haven't made one even decent pick.

So I think they are doomed and even though I love being able to watch Ray on a regular basis I'd be happy for him IF he's traded to a contender like Chicago or Memphis.

 

[Dann]

i heard melo and amare for garnett and allen

 

[4UConn]

Allen, Garnett and Pierce should all retire as Celtics and their numbers hang over the rafters. I would really dislike, as a lifelong devotee of the Celts, to see Ray or others end their great careers with other teams.

 

[nomar]

We Celtics fans got #17, which was awesome, but I have a bad feeling it's gonna take as long to get #18.

 

[upstater]

With aging Garnett and BBass as their only competent frontcourt players the Celtics desperately need to blow it up and rebuild, but everyone knows this so they are only getting .50 - .75 on the dollar when shopping Ray or Rondo and no one wants to take a risk on Garnett. They need to get really lucky in the draft and since Rondo they haven't made one even decent pick.

So I think they are doomed and even though I love being able to watch Ray on a regular basis I'd be happy for him IF he's traded to a contender like Chicago or Memphis.

Boston isn't a contender compared to Memphis or Chicago?
Blow it up for what? These guys are old. They will not get a top return, might as well play out the string.

 

[caw]

Ainge should step down, he is a disaster at GM.
Perkins, now Ray. Jeez.
He lucked out landing Garnett and Ray in the first place, and his drafting decisions have been putrid.

One player? Rondo? That's it? After all these years?

Ainge started in 2003 correct?

His draft history isn't that bad:
2003: Marcus Banks (13), Dahntay Jones (20), Perkins (27)
2004: Al Jefferson (15), Delonte West (24), Tony Allen (25)
2005: Gerald Green (18), Ryan Gomes (50)
2006: Rajon Rondo (21), Leon Powe (49)
2007: Got Ray Allen for Jeff Green, Glen Davis (35)
2008: JR Giddens (30), Bill Walker (47), Semih Erden (60)
2009: Lester Hudson (58)
2010: Bradley (19), Harangody (52)
2011: Johnson (27), Moore (55)

He hasn't had a top 15 draft pick since Marcus Banks aside from the one he traded to get Ray Allen.

There are some bad trades (JaJuan for Brooks) but his draft history for position isn't bad and not just Rondo. I think he should get canned, but not for his draft history.

 

[dsturdy5]

Allen, Garnett and Pierce should all retire as Celtics and their numbers hang over the rafters. I would really dislike, as a lifelong devotee of the Celts, to see Ray or others end their great careers with other teams.

This is the same sentiment that put them into a spiral of mediocrity for the majority of the 90's-the early 2000's. The 1980's front office had a chance to trade McHale in 1989 and Parish in 1990, didn't do it and has said they regretted it in hindsight. Well soon after that, Bird's back becomes too much to handle, McHale's foot and leg injuries become more and more common, Reggie Lewis suddenly passes and poor drafting catches up with them. They went from championship contender in 1990 to average team by 93. They were stuck in the lottery until 2002 except for one season when they got into the playoffs as the 8 seed.

I would hate to see this happen again. Ainge has proven to be a decent drafter. Many of his picks he used as assets in other deals. They haven't been in position to draft impact players lately so you get the Avery Bradley's of the world, nice role players but not guys you can build around. The problem this franchise will face is they will have a ton of cap room after this year but who was the last free agent of substance who wanted to come to Boston? Why spend the winter in Boston when you can go to Phoenix, Miami, Orlando, LA, etc, etc, ect.

Ainge will have to pull another rabbit or two out of his hat to get max contract-quality players in Boston via trades this offseason.

 

[4UConn]

This is the same sentiment that put them into a spiral of mediocrity for the majority of the 90's-the early 2000's. The 1980's front office had a chance to trade McHale in 1989 and Parish in 1990, didn't do it and has said they regretted it in hindsight. Well soon after that, Bird's back becomes too much to handle, McHale's foot and leg injuries become more and more common, Reggie Lewis suddenly passes and poor drafting catches up with them. They went from championship contender in 1990 to average team by 93. They were stuck in the lottery until 2002 except for one season when they got into the playoffs as the 8 seed.

I would hate to see this happen again. Ainge has proven to be a decent drafter. Many of his picks he used as assets in other deals. They haven't been in position to draft impact players lately so you get the Avery Bradley's of the world, nice role players but not guys you can build around. The problem this franchise will face is they will have a ton of cap room after this year but who was the last free agent of substance who wanted to come to Boston? Why spend the winter in Boston when you can go to Phoenix, Miami, Orlando, LA, etc, etc, ect.

Ainge will have to pull another rabbit or two out of his hat to get max contract-quality players in Boston via trades this offseason.

Aren't you ensuring mediocrity by trading aging stars for less than top tier players? And, in addition to the causes you mentioned, wasn't the decline, in some part, the result of the long hangover of poorly constructed long-term contracts with Bird and others? I think these guys have a couple years left in them and I also think it's possible to rebuild AROUND them, but only Ainge knows the economics.

 

[caw]

They really shouldn't trade Allen/Garnett/Pierce for anything that doesn't include draft picks.

 

[dsturdy5]

Well the deadline has passed and the Celtics did not make any moves.

They will have a load of cash this offseason. The question is, who comes? I can see resigning a KG or Allen as part of a sign and trade.

 

[Prezidint]

i heard melo and amare for garnett and allen

If that's accurate, the knicks are thieves.

 

[HuskyHawk]

With aging Garnett and BBass as their only competent frontcourt players the Celtics desperately need to blow it up and rebuild, but everyone knows this so they are only getting .50 - .75 on the dollar when shopping Ray or Rondo and no one wants to take a risk on Garnett. They need to get really lucky in the draft and since Rondo they haven't made one even decent pick.

So I think they are doomed and even though I love being able to watch Ray on a regular basis I'd be happy for him IF he's traded to a contender like Chicago or Memphis.

Agreed. Better for him and the Celtics. They need to stockpile picks and young players and blow up this roster. Would good is an aging HOFer like Ray to a team that desperately needs to start losing some games so it can slide into the lottery. Danny must cringe every time they stupidly win a close game.

 

[Brochacho]

If the Celtics could sign a legit star I'm sure Ray and KG would hang around for much less $.

 

[CL82]

SAN FRANCISCO -- Rapid reaction after the trade deadline appears to have passed without the Boston Celtics making a move:

 

[RS9999X]

Well the deadline has passed and the Celtics did not make any moves.

They will have a load of cash this offseason. The question is, who comes? I can see resigning a KG or Allen as part of a sign and trade.

I think the Celts will try for two more years with the current line up. Pierce is signed for 2 and Rondo for 3. Bradley for 1 more.

The thing is ticket sales. The Celts can sell out another two years with the same backbone

 

[DogMania]

I think the Celts will try for two more years with the current line up. Pierce is signed for 2 and Rondo for 3. Bradley for 1 more.

The thing is ticket sales. The Celts can sell out another two years with the same backbone

I don't think the lack of a deal had anything to do with making another run with this group. It's more a matter of not taking .50 on the dollar talent wise moving one or two of the players for some average at best talent you'd be stuck with for a while. over the plan of freeing a ton of salary with Ray and KG off the books next season. The only problem with this is how little talent will be out there over the summer to spend on.

It's just terrible timing as far as clearing cap space unless you're a team that has a solid core of talent and all you need is one elite player. From what I understand, Deron Williams is the only super star FA this summer, now that Howard locked himself in for another year in Orlando. Is that right?

 

[HuskyBandDad]

i heard melo and amare for garnett and allen

I could only hope this is true being a knick fan

 

[UConnSwag11]

I could only hope this is true being a knick fan

id rather get rid of melo to be honest and get a nice wing in a trade or draft