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John said:
a second team in Toronto seems ridiculous. Why not just maximize the Maple Leafs arena, make it bigger? Who in Toronto is going to root for some second-class team? The Maple Leafs are a way of life in Toronto.
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Very true, and it's not like Buffalo is exactly distant.
 
John said:
a second team in Toronto seems ridiculous. Why not just maximize the Maple Leafs arena, make it bigger? Who in Toronto is going to root for some second-class team? The Maple Leafs are a way of life in Toronto.
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I'm sure the same was said about NY Mets, NY Jets, LA Clippers, LA Angels, etc etc.
 
vowelguy said:
I'm sure the same was said about NY Mets, NY Jets, LA Clippers, LA Angels, etc etc.
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not a good comparison. The Mets replaced the Dodgers/Giants, so there was already National League ball in NYC. The LA Angels didn't appear out of nowhere, remember that they had long existed as the California Angels. I grant that you might have a point about the Clippers, I don't know enough about the NBA to make a comment on that.
 
John said:
not a good comparison. The Mets replaced the Dodgers/Giants, so there was already National League ball in NYC. The LA Angels didn't appear out of nowhere, remember that they had long existed as the California Angels. I grant that you might have a point about the Clippers, I don't know enough about the NBA to make a comment on that.
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The Clippers were in San Diego before LA. Sterling moved them so he didn't have to.
 
John said:
not a good comparison.
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They are all examples of a new team entering a market with an entrenched leader. All were met with derision at first. And yet they survived.

Another Toronto-area team placed down in Hamilton (~30-45 mins away) would serve a different audience.
 
vowelguy said:
They are all examples of a new team entering a market with an entrenched leader. All were met with derision at first. And yet they survived.

Another Toronto-area team placed down in Hamilton (~30-45 mins away) would serve a different audience.
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The Clippers survived because Sterling bankrolled them to the minimum and sued the league. They survived in spite of themselves.
 
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The NHL is big on gate revenue. A second team in Toronto serves that cause.
 
Husky25 said:
The Clippers were in San Diego before LA. Sterling moved them so he didn't have to.
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Wasn't the clippers' franchise in KC or somewhere in the corn belt or Midwest before moving to SD, then LA?

On the Whalers, which now smaller northern CT or western MA corporations would buy the required luxury boxes in a required larger, new arena? Set aside Fairfield County and southern New Haven counties as well, because both are more NY-focused. Unless it's partially an avenue to a new arena for some UCONN hoops and hockey games in Hartford, wheres the legitimate demand and financial support for another NHL experiment?
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
Wasn't the clippers' franchise in KC or somewhere in the corn belt or Midwest before moving to SD, then LA?
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The Kings were in KC/Omaha. The Clippers started out as the Buffalo Braves.
 
The Maple Leafs have priced out a horde of fans who instead decide to travel to Buffalo to watch games. When Toronto plays in Buffalo, fans decide it's much cheaper and less of a hassle to drive 1 1/2 hours for a game. And Buffalo, which sells out a huge arena for hockey, is inundated with Maple Leafs fans.

Heck, I bet the same thing happens in Ottawa, which is 3 1/2 hours away.
 
TheDoggPound said:
http://www.ct.gov/ecd/lib/ecd/dph-population/dph_pop_1997.pdf

1997 population: 3,269,858
2013 population: 3,574,097


That's an increase of 304,239 + the 2014 increase which is about an additional 5,000 more. So we're at 310,000. By 2017 it will be over 325,000.
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Now, I guess people don't realize how much income taxes wreck the nonessential spending. I had to cut back spending when .Weicker gave the citizens of Connecticut a screwing. The last few years of the Whalers, I had to cut back on Whalers tickets.
I am a Tampa Bay Lightning ticket holder...but I still have a Whalers shirt I wear to Whalercanes Lightning games.
 
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The fans are still there. Not in lower/mid Fairfield county though.

Hamilton will get a team, and Quebec might as well. As much as I want to see the Whalers come back, I find it hard to believe that a new franchise will want to start in Hartford with a run-down 15.5k arena, with the need to build a new arena in the coming years. In conclusion, instead of building minor league baseball stadiums a new arena in downtown Hartford should be seriously proposed.

A new arena in combination with the return of the Whalers will bring back fans. There are a lot of Ranger/Bruin/Islander fans who don't really like them because the Whalers were their original team. I'm one of them, but I'm an Oiler fan!
 
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