OT - New London, Uncasville, Norwich area

[vtcwbuff]

Took a quick look it's @119,000, if you are counting only the shore towns.

Old Lyme 7603 (2010)
East Lyme 19159 (2010)
Waterford 19517 (2010)
New London 27545 (2013)
Groton (city) 40115 (2010)
Mystic 4205 (2010)
Stonington 922 (2013)

It would be more if you added the abuting northerly towns, like Lyme, Ledyard, North Stonington, etc, but you are absolutely correct that for the most part it is suburban.

So if you are looking for a urban environment, you won't find it in southeastern Connecticut. What you will find is some gorgeous country.

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And that's why some of us choose to live here. We take the train into NY a couple of times a year. Nice place to visit, but every time I leave with the feeling "God, I'm glad I don't have to live here."

 

[DogWarden]

I will be visiting your beautiful state in less than 2 weeks for the South Carolina/St. John's MBB game at Mohegan Sun. I'm staying in New London; does anyone have any seafood recommendations or any cool/quaint things to do while there? I'll be up there for a couple of days. Many thanks.

Mystic is a "must stop" along the CT shoreline. If you go, have lunch or dinner at the S&P Oyster Company at the historic drawbridge.

http://www.sp-oyster.com/#_=_

 

[Intpseeker]

Daddy jacks downtown New London on bank st. i would recommend the scallops.. Or, "on the waterfront", on pequot ave. in New London, crab cakes are pretty dam good

Good call!

I'm oriented to Mystic and forget there are some great eateries in NL...and there is never a wait...or parking problems...because no one is here...except for all the N Y folks who have bought up every available piece of real estate within a stones throw of the water...I guess to spend time in 'deadsville'...go figure...

 

[watanabe]

I don't know where you got that but you could not be more wrong. Around here Ledyard is considered a war hero, and rightfully so. There are parks, schools and roads named for him. A local high school's teams are known as "The Colonels." There is a large monument for him in a cemetery bearing his name.

I have read at least a dozen accounts of the battle, including several written by survivors. I have never read a single disparaging account of Ledyard's actions. The facts are that some of Ledyard's officers wanted to abandon the fort and fight a "harassment campaign" in the countryside. Expecting "hundreds of reinforcements" from local militias, Ledyard, in council with his officers, chose to defend the fort. Unfortunately for the defenders the reinforcements never showed.

You are entitled to your opinion.

 

[vtcwbuff]

You are entitled to your opinion.

Don't misinterpret what I wrote. It is not my opinion. It is fact supported by historical documentation. If you like I can provide at least a dozen or more sources that detail the facts as I presented them. Can you tell me where you find your opinion of the foolish Colonel Ledyard?

The events as I described them are memorialized in the 1840 "Narrative of Jonathan Rathbun" that also contains the memories of Sgt Rufus Avery and Stephen Hempstead, both survivors of the battle. Check it out. You might come away with a different opinion of Ledyard.

Not my opinion but fact - From a History of New London County, 1922 "A council of war was held and it was the unanimous voice that the garrison were unable to defend themselves against so superior a force. But a militia Colonel who was then in the fort and had a body of men in the immediate vicinity, said he would reinforce them with 2 or 300 men in 15 minutes if they could hold out; Colonel Ledyard agreed to send back a defiance (to the demand for surrender)." That unnamed Colonel ( an early example of PC? Caulkins names him in her History of New London)and his militia never showed. Some accounts say that the reinforcements got a look at the British troops and decided to "fight elsewhere." In any case Colonel Ledyard was left holding the bag but hardly deserving of "foolish."

Apparently you would have also considered Gen McAuliffe's response to German surrender demands to also be a foolish act.

 

[CL82]

Don't misinterpret what I wrote. It is not my opinion. It is fact supported by historical documentation. If you like I can provide at least a dozen or more sources that detail the facts as I presented them. Can you tell me where you find your opinion of the foolish Colonel Ledyard?

The events as I described them are memorialized in the 1840 "Narrative of Jonathan Rathbun" that also contains the memories of Sgt Rufus Avery and Stephen Hempstead, both survivors of the battle. Check it out. You might come away with a different opinion of Ledyard.

Not my opinion but fact - From a History of New London County, 1922 "A council of war was held and it was the unanimous voice that the garrison were unable to defend themselves against so superior a force. But a militia Colonel who was then in the fort and had a body of men in the immediate vicinity, said he would reinforce them with 2 or 300 men in 15 minutes if they could hold out; Colonel Ledyard agreed to send back a defiance (to the demand for surrender)." That unnamed Colonel ( an early example of PC? Caulkins names him in her History of New London)and his militia never showed. Some accounts say that the reinforcements got a look at the British troops and decided to "fight elsewhere." In any case Colonel Ledyard was left holding the bag but hardly deserving of "foolish."

Apparently you would have also considered Gen McAuliffe's response to German surrender demands to also be a foolish act.

@vtcwbuff It's been a while since I was last at Fort Griswold, but I have a vague recollection that the British, possible because of Arnold, knew of our signal for help (perhaps one cannon for shot "help needed under attack" and two cannon for shots for "all's well.") When Ledyard had the troops fired a shot, indicating that they needed militia, the British would fire a second, indicating all's well.

Is there any truth to that? It's a pretty vague memory, so it may be a different battle or the product of brain damage due to my misspent youth.

 

[DaddyChoc]

I don't know where you got that but you could not be more wrong. Around here Ledyard is considered a war hero, and rightfully so. There are parks, schools and roads named for him. A local high school's teams are known as "The Colonels." There is a large monument for him in a cemetery bearing his name.

I have read at least a dozen accounts of the battle, including several written by survivors. I have never read a single disparaging account of Ledyard's actions. The facts are that some of Ledyard's officers wanted to abandon the fort and fight a "harassment campaign" in the countryside. Expecting "hundreds of reinforcements" from local militias, Ledyard, in council with his officers, chose to defend the fort. Unfortunately for the defenders the reinforcements never showed.

in Hartford, the "Dutch Point" section of the city has streets named Norwich, Groton, Stonington, Lisbon, Ledyard (is on the other side of "Colt Park") Griswold is in the area (further south near Goodwin Park) Pawtucket is in the general area.... wonder why, sure it has something to do with the Connecticut River.

There also is the Presidential block... just off "Washington" Street, Lincoln, Madison, Jefferson