OT NCAA Investigates NCAA

[traitor71]

That is exactly what they are doing. They don't want to punish Miami (if they really did the investigation would have ended a while ago and 'Tha U' would have gotten the death penalty) so they needed to find a loophole.

Death penalty for what? Kids riding on boats with girls? Even the con man said he couldn't buy players because he "couldn't afford to compete with the SEC". If you can believe him that is, if you can believe anything that he has said throughout this whole thing. The NCAA has been there for all this time because they can't prove, or make sense of what this guy has been putting out there. I think this guy is just running his final con, on Miami, Yahoo, and now the NCAA in an effort to promote whatever book he plans to write.

They don't want to punish Miami. That's laughable as they already have punished them pretty good by keeping them in Limbo all this time. Not to mention the fact that they have been collecting "evidence" that they shouldn't have. All of their investigative tactics should be called into question in my opinion.

 

[Mattydog7]

I've dedicated my life to walking the peaceful path. I've spent years tirelessly purging my mind of aggressive thoughts. I've rigorously retrained my brain to not act on base animal instincts. I meditate daily. I'd like to think I'm a peaceful man.

...but damn if I'd like nothing more than to punch that f!cker square in the jaw.

Emmert Sucks.

 

[huskiesnyc]

NCAA investigating NCAA?

I wish UConn would investigate UConn when it comes to conference realignment

 

[UConn5]

There is no way that Miami deserves the death penalty. Regardless of whether you think that the NCAA punishing Penn State was within the NCAA's jurisdiction, they decided that it was and they handed down a 4 year bowl ban and a fine and scholarship reduction. No way Miami gets hit with the death penalty after the NCAA set that precedent.

The NCAA are absolute idiots. How could they, or Shapiro's lawyer, think that it was ok to call in witnesses and then ask them questions that the NCAA wanted answered all under the guise of it being important to a bankruptcy proceeding.

I think Miami may self-impose one more year of a bowl ban and then move on. I don't see how they could reasonably expect the NCAA to impose anything more than a 3 year bowl ban and they have already self-imposed 2 years.

 

[prankster]

It's like we've been booked by the keystone cops for jaywalking and we are watching them through our barred cell window as they trip over their batons chasing bank robbers.

 

[Huskieforlife]

I wish UConn would investigate UConn when it comes to conference realignment

i had midterms today, this just made my day a lot better lol

 

[selles]

I've dedicated my life to walking the peaceful path. I've spent years tirelessly purging my mind of aggressive thoughts. I've rigorously retrained my brain to not act on base animal instincts. I meditate daily. I'd like to think I'm a peaceful man.

...but damn if I'd like nothing more than to punch that f!cker square in the jaw.

At some point, don't we Boneyarders have an obligation to storm the NCAA offices and tar and feather this guy? He richly deserves it. If we get in trouble, we can claim we thought he was a drifter.

 

[upstater]

That is exactly what they are doing. They don't want to punish Miami (if they really did the investigation would have ended a while ago and 'Tha U' would have gotten the death penalty) so they needed to find a loophole.

I tend to agree with this. Unless Shapiro was unaware that aspects of his case were shared with the NCAA, then so what? If Shapiro gives his consent, then why is this a conflict of interest? Any lawyers explain this to me?

 

[selles]

I tend to agree with this. Unless Shapiro was unaware that aspects of his case were shared with the NCAA, then so what? If Shapiro gives his consent, then why is this a conflict of interest? Any lawyers explain this to me?

My understanding is it's not so much a conflict of interest as the fact that the NCAA does not have subpoena power, so it's wrong for them to indirectly employ an attorney who effectively does have the subpoena power (because of the ability to require people to testify under oath in another case) to extract information.

This is due process small potatoes compared to the ex post facto BS the NCAA pulled on UConn, but I guess whatever makes the NCAA look like a bunch of incompetent turds is for the best.

 

[upstater]

My understanding is it's not so much a conflict of interest as the fact that the NCAA does not have subpoena power, so it's wrong for them to indirectly employ an attorney who effectively does have the subpoena power (because of the ability to require people to testify under oath in another case) to extract information.

This is due process small potatoes compared to the ex post facto BS the NCAA pulled on UConn, but I guess whatever makes the NCAA look like a bunch of incompetent turds is for the best.

Ahh, I see. So they actually did this in a court of law? I thought it was just info gleaned from working with Shapiro's attorney. With Shapiro's knowledge. Because presumably any bankruptcy case is open to anyone. But if the way they conduct such a case is skewed for another purpose, I can see the problem.

 

[upstater]

The NCAA actually had to clear Pat Sellers name after it wrongly interpreted his answer to a question.

 

[selles]

Ahh, I see. So they actually did this in a court of law? I thought it was just info gleaned from working with Shapiro's attorney. With Shapiro's knowledge. Because presumably any bankruptcy case is open to anyone. But if the way they conduct such a case is skewed for another purpose, I can see the problem.

Yeah, I think they had the attorney ask certain questions of witnesses in the case under oath.

 

[M_Funkhauser43!]

Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

 

[progrocks]

One can hope that the NCAA is tough enough in this circumstance to give itself the death penalty. This is the best example of lack of institutional control. Isnt the top required to know what happens below him, and that it all falls on him?

 

[traitor71]

Show cause for Emmert?

 

[upstater]

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...caa-miami-hurricanes-investigation-says-patsy

It's getting even weirder. Shapiro's attorney refuses to play the role of patsy and she opines that the NCAA is deliberately botching the investigation. I can't buy that last part, since why would the NCAA want to lose its rep. Nonetheless, some of the NCAA's claims are hard to believe:

"Emmert said any information obtained in this method would be thrown out."

The NCAA has obtained info about other schools in an even crazier manner than this. Pissed off ex-girlfriends and boyfriends, phone bills in the trash, etc.

I don't believe the NCAA on this. No matter the lawyer is a bit overboard, her client WANTED to mess up Miami, so she worked with the NCAA to deliver information. And she's right, whatever the NCAA wants to do with that is up to them.