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The Dubs are running out lineups that would make Memphis blush. McKinnie, Bell, Cook, Looney lineup in Game 6? Houston is embarrassing themselves in a tie game at half.
 
Ridiculous 2nd half from Curry, but Houston has to go home thinking what if. 0 points from Curry at halftime and they're tied
 
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navery12 said:
Ridiculous 2nd half from Curry, but Houston has to go home thinking what if. 0 points from Curry at halftime and they're tied
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So glad Houston lost.

They are such a trash version of what basketball should be with Harden the rot at the head. Same for Dantonio as a coach. The moment of a home Game 6 against Warriors with no Durant, Green and Curry in foul trouble, and a scoreless first half from Curry, and what do they do?
Let Looney look all-NBA, Harden shoots 7-12 on FTs and they let Klay get his looks in first half. Harden on one okay literally slows down for defender to get near him, fully extends his arm to push defender away 30' from hoop and then looks shocked when called for offensive foul.
Not even a GS fan, but give me their skill level over Houston's YMCA run in to everyone and look for calls everyday.
 
Rockets are just not really that good & Harden continues to underperform in the playoffs compared to his regular seasons. Bucks have been the best team I’ve seen so far in the playoffs, between there defense & their three point shooting, truly impressive.

With Durant there (it’s suffocated the talent on that roster & the league as a whole), people forget how great the combo of Curry, Thompson, Green, & Iguodala are. Iguodala was terrific in that series & so was Green & obviously the splash brothers. The fact of the matter is if I am starting a team today I am taking Curry over Harden and Klay is not far behind Harden, we haven’t even seen Klay’s full potential considering all the talent on that roster.

To me, Klay still has the most important moment & game for that franchise’s history, game 6 in OKC even though it didn’t equate to a title that year. That game changed NBA history, if Klay doesn’t have that performance the Warriors win one title, I truly believe that. KD stays and we are talking about a very different landscape of the NBA.
 
That’s poor form on Chris Paul’s part. The rest of the article was a bit over the top though. It was only a matter of time before Curry got hot this series and what’s with people saying he couldn’t win without Durant? He already did.
 
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Oh no, another 'bad shot' to win a tie game! Basketball is really in trouble with all these great endings tricking us into thinking long jump shots can win games.
 
Dogdeacon said:
Oh no, another 'bad shot' to win a tie game! Basketball is really in trouble with all these great endings tricking us into thinking long jump shots can win games.
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The outcome of the shot doesn't change whether or not it's a quality look.
 
Huskyforlife said:
The outcome of the shot doesn't change whether or not it's a quality look.
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To take it back to an earlier series, when a guy has made 9 of his last 13 of a certain shot, it's a quality look, no matter what the "get off my lawn" crowd says.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
To take it back to an earlier series, when a guy has made 9 of his last 13 of a certain shot, it's a quality look, no matter what the "get off my lawn" crowd says.
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Empirical, peer reviewed evidence says that the hot hand is false.
 
the Q said:
Empirical, peer reviewed evidence says that the hot hand is false.
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At this point I can't tell what's sarcasm and what's not. And that includes your post. I wasn't talking about any "hot hand." And by the way, your post isn't even accurate.

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Let's do this, why don't we just run the playoffs on a computer simulator and crown a champ that way.
 
This is so obvious. The average strategy over the course of a game varies from the optimal strategy in individual situations, especially in the playoffs. This is mostly related to the anti analytics uproar re: CJ and his mid range shot, especially LeBron's tweet. In a tie game last shot scenario, shoot whatever shot gives you the highest probability of scoring, not the shot with the highest average point per possession.

Once again, two game 7s came down to which team had better ISO players.
 
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So, what's everyone's prediction for the conference finals?

KD is out for Game 1, unlikely to play in Game 2.
No word on Rodney Hood yet.

Regardless of what happens with the injury situations, GSW should take care of business fairly easily.

MIL/TOR is a toss up for me. I imagine most will roll with MIL but I like that TOR got one helluva battle in the ECSF. I think they match up better with MIL than they did with Philly. That one should go six or seven.
 
Lefty2one said:
So, what's everyone's prediction for the conference finals?

KD is out for Game 1, unlikely to play in Game 2.
No word on Rodney Hood yet.

Regardless of what happens with the injury situations, GSW should take care of business fairly easily.

MIL/TOR is a toss up for me. I imagine most will roll with MIL but I like that TOR got one helluva battle in the ECSF. I think they match up better with MIL than they did with Philly. That one should go six or seven.
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Are we sure portland wont get swept? I don't see how they stop a warriors team that decides to try...

MIL/TOR - Depends on how MIL will shoot the ball. TOR..I mean Leonard is playoff tested he'll be fine and drag them to the finals if MIL doesn't show up every game. TOR also plays incredible defense.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
To take it back to an earlier series, when a guy has made 9 of his last 13 of a certain shot, it's a quality look, no matter what the "get off my lawn" crowd says.
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If he missed, everyone would be asking why he dribbled the clock down into that shot. Taking a fade-away, deep 3 in Paul Georges face, will never be a quality shot. We'll agree to disagree.
 
Walker11 said:
This is so obvious. The average strategy over the course of a game varies from the optimal strategy in individual situations, especially in the playoffs. This is mostly related to the anti analytics uproar re: CJ and his mid range shot, especially LeBron's tweet. In a tie game last shot scenario, shoot whatever shot gives you the highest probability of scoring, not the shot with the highest average point per possession.

Once again, two game 7s came down to which team had better ISO players.
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First paragraph 100% true.
I don't know that Toronto had the better ISO players, Philly had 3-4 guys pretty good in isolation - Toronto just had THE best player. Not sure its worth distinguishing if they are the best iso players or just the best players. And analytics be damned, there were plenty of guys playing yesterday who wanted no part of shooting/making plays in the game 7 environment.
Maybe the 2018 NCAA tournament which had a lot of hero ball late game failures sparked a backlash amongst college hoop fans that they are now trying to apply to the NBA. This doesn't work as these are the best players in the world. And watching KD vs Harden mano-a-mano is what you want, just like yesterday we watched Kawhi sink the game winner over the Sixers' best player. Can't ask for more than that.
 
polycom said:
Are we sure portland wont get swept? I don't see how they stop a warriors team that decides to try...

MIL/TOR - Depends on how MIL will shoot the ball. TOR..I mean Leonard is playoff tested he'll be fine and drag them to the finals if MIL doesn't show up every game. TOR also plays incredible defense.
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I think we had a historically great quarterfinals and both semis will be duds. GState in 4 or 5 and Bucks in 6.

I feel less confident picking against a very good Toronto team and Kawhi. My guess is he runs out of gas a little bit and Kawhi needs to get 30-ish every game for them to win. I suppose Giannis also needs 30+, but he gets that almost effortlessly. Supporting cast seems to be improving for the Bucks.
 
Dogdeacon said:
First paragraph 100% true.
I don't know that Toronto had the better ISO players, Philly had 3-4 guys pretty good in isolation - Toronto just had THE best player. Not sure its worth distinguishing if they are the best iso players or just the best players. And analytics be damned, there were plenty of guys playing yesterday who wanted no part of shooting/making plays in the game 7 environment.
Maybe the 2018 NCAA tournament which had a lot of hero ball late game failures sparked a backlash amongst college hoop fans that they are now trying to apply to the NBA. This doesn't work as these are the best players in the world. And watching KD vs Harden mano-a-mano is what you want, just like yesterday we watched Kawhi sink the game winner over the Sixers' best player. Can't ask for more than that.
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Kawhi is both the best player and best iso player in the series. Both Harris and Butler are good, but not as good as Kawhi, both by the eye test and point per possession. The reason it is so important is because how often offense bogs down in the playoffs with all the scheming and lack of scrub minutes. I do agree that a lot of Raptors were scared to shoot. And it was beautiful to watch.
 
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Dogdeacon said:
First paragraph 100% true.
I don't know that Toronto had the better ISO players, Philly had 3-4 guys pretty good in isolation - Toronto just had THE best player. Not sure its worth distinguishing if they are the best iso players or just the best players. And analytics be damned, there were plenty of guys playing yesterday who wanted no part of shooting/making plays in the game 7 environment.
Maybe the 2018 NCAA tournament which had a lot of hero ball late game failures sparked a backlash amongst college hoop fans that they are now trying to apply to the NBA. This doesn't work as these are the best players in the world. And watching KD vs Harden mano-a-mano is what you want, just like yesterday we watched Kawhi sink the game winner over the Sixers' best player. Can't ask for more than that.
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Culver’s atrocious plays at the end of regulation versus the Virginia play to the tie the game is a perfect example.
 
Bucks in 7 and Warriors in 5 or 6. KD looks like he will miss the first 2 games, at least. Their bench is so garbage that I think Portland steals 1 or 2 games. GSW is just so much more talented when fully healthy. Either East team will be a huge challenge for the Warriors if they don't come out of the ECF physically and mentally exhausted and if the Warriors don't breeze through. However, both situations are likely.
 
Warriors will win but it will be a tough series, ya'll are selling the Blazers short. Bucks in a tough series. Finals should be awesome.
 
Mil/Tor will be a battle. The Bucks are the better team, but they have very little playoff experience. After George Hill, the Bucks have almost no playoff experience. Lopez played 13 playoff games in 10 years prior to this season. Bledsoe has 24 games in 8 seasons. Ilyasova was in 33 games.
 
superjohn said:
Warriors will win but it will be a tough series, ya'll are selling the Blazers short. Bucks in a tough series. Finals should be awesome.
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The way the Blazers are playing pNr is an embarrassment to basketball fans, Steph's ability and every other coach that has come up with a game plan against Steph.
 
polycom said:
The way the Blazers are playing pNr is an embarrassment to basketball fans, Steph's ability and every other coach that has come up with a game plan against Steph.
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Awful showing by Blazers and Warriors often play as good or better without Durant. KD is probably the best player in the league now but they still go as Curry goes.
 
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