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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 2265952, member: 488"] I don't put much stock into position labels to begin with. A lot of times these days it's just used as a proxy to describe the player who has the ball in his hands the most and uses the most high ball screens. Mike Conley and Kyrie Irving are "point guards" who spend a lot of time spotting up. Livingston in Golden State has been a guy who kind of lurks around the baseline and wings, waiting for opportune times to cut. Ball has more upside than that because he has gifts as a passer that few others do and potential as a shooter that Livingston never showed. Beyond that, we'll see. I'm skeptical about guys who draw the "make others around him better" moniker. That's not to say there isn't some truth to it, just that I think it undersells how good and how smart the guys in the NBA already are. It's hard enough to process NBA defenses when you're Russell Westbrook and you can jump from building and you've already been in the league for a decade. I don't buy the idea that Ball's court vision and basketball sense is so supernatural that he's going to be Good Will Hunting out there solving defenses. [/QUOTE]