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Message: [QUOTE="intlzncster, post: 2264376, member: 56"] Again, I'm not saying he's going to be crap, I just think it's tough to gauge in summer league. That's all. I think Tatum looks better than he'll be this year too. My take on Ball is the same as before. He's got a superlative skill, which will allow him a long and probably successful career. I'm not yet sure how his other skills will translate. My guess is he will be a very good player in this league, though not a transcendent one. Though, much of his ceiling will depend on who he's surrounded with, given his skill set. If he gets paired with a HOF scorer and another All Star, the assessment could change. I don't see him as a guy who's going to take over games all by himself a la Harden/Westbrook. If he develops those things he is currently weak in, the assessment could change. I agree will be fun to watch. [/QUOTE]