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Message: [QUOTE="UConnStats, post: 1938733, member: 5842"] Carmelo is in his 15th season in the NBA. He's topped an 110 ORtg in 2 of those 15 years. For perspective, Isaiah Thomas is a fringe-star now for 1.5 years. His [B]lowest[/B] ORtg in his 6 year career has been 113. Carmelo's defense is always criticized (fairly, as he's never had a positive DBPM), but the truth is that he's never been that dominant on offense. He gives you volume, not efficiency. It would be one thing if he never played with good players, but he has made other "star" teammates worse rather than becoming more efficient. A warning to Celtics fans: Cousins is very inefficient too. If he had a smaller role and forced less shots and turnovers, he could be great. Would he be willing to do so? Who knows. I would be very nervous about selling the farm for him. [/QUOTE]