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Seems a bit quirky to me...

From Emory Sports Marketing Analytics:

>>We are presenting a series ranking the “best” fan bases in college football. The study uses data from the past ten years and the rankings are based on Revenue Premium Brand Equity. For more information on the analysis/methodology, please click here.<<

"For those that have previously seen our other brand equity analyses, we should note that our conference-level analysis takes a slightly different approach. For the fan analyses, we build a statistical model that predicts team revenues as a function of metrics related to team performance such as winning percentage and bowl participation. We then compare actual revenues to what is predicted based purely on team performance (and other factors such as number of students, capacity, etc…). Click here for an explanation of why we use this “revenue premium” approach to brand equity measurement.

For the conference analysis, we take a similar, but more financially oriented approach. This analysis also begins with a statistical model of team revenues, but now the explanatory variables primarily involve team expenditures. Team-level brand equity is then taken as the difference between actual revenues and revenues predicted based on expenditures. The logic of this approach is that teams with more powerful brands should be able to more efficiently increase revenues. As an example, imagine a comparison between the University of Notre Dame and perhaps Rutgers. If these teams spent the same amount in a given year, we would still expect Notre Dame to have significantly greater revenues simply because ND has such a large and loyal following.

We rely on this ROI (Return on Investment) oriented measure for the conference ranking because we have a significant interest in conference realignment. In this era of realignment, it seems obvious that conference membership decisions are almost entirely driven by financial considerations. In other words, while we feel that fan support should be measured relative to team performance, when it comes to conferences we believe that schools should be evaluated based on ROI."

Here is the link for Conference View: 1. SEC, 2. B1G, 3. Big12, 4. PAC12, 5. AAC, 6. ACC

Here is the link for the AAC View: 1. SMU, 2. Memphis, 3. UCF, 4. Temple, 5. Houston, 6. Louisville, 7. Rutgers, 8. UConn, 9. USF, 10. Cincinnati.
 

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Clearly we have a TON of work to do if we are ranked that far behind Temple. Has anyone watched a Temple game? If they drew 10,000 game, I'd be surprised. Maybe the empty seats at the Linc are deceiving but good Lord, I think high school teams in Florida and Texas draw more.
 

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Pretty much if you suck you do well. If your model spits out obvious garbage, the right answer is your model is garbage, not that Memphis and Temple have a better fanbase than Louisville, UConn, Cincinnati or New Britain High School.

I don't necessarily agree with the methodology they use (and got a headache trying to figure it out) but I also don't have a doctorate degree and an mba and do what they do for a living. Not sure how to reconcile the other conferences they have done because they seem pretty accurate (except I think Cuse is higher than than I thought they would be in the ACC).

These guys seem to be fairly on point with the oter studies they have done (NFL/NBA Draft Picks)... https://blogs.emory.edu/sportsmarketing/category/big-east/

Regardless of whether any of us here agree... It's the perception that's out there, getting play and another uphill fight for respect.
 

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I don't necessarily agree with the methodology they use but i also don't have a doctorate degree and mba and do what they do for a living. Not sure how to reconile the other conferences they have done because they seem pretty accurate (except I think Cuse is higher than than I thought they would be).

These guys nailed other studies they have done (NFL/NBA Draft Picks)... https://blogs.emory.edu/sportsmarketing/category/big-east/

Regardless of whether any of us here agree... It's the perception that's out there and getting play.

It's a divide by zero error. Tulane and Memphis have zero success and spend nothing so their tiny revenue looks good in comparison.

You don't need a fancy formula to look at Tulane's average turnstile count of 5k - that simple fact shows they don't have a fanbase.
 
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I don't necessarily agree with the methodology they use (and got a headache trying to figure it out) but I also don't have a doctorate degree and an mba and do what they do for a living. Not sure how to reconile the other conferences they have done because they seem pretty accurate (except I think Cuse is higher than than I thought they would be in the ACC).

These guys seem to be fairly on point with the oter studies they have done (NFL/NBA Draft Picks)... https://blogs.emory.edu/sportsmarketing/category/big-east/

Regardless of whether any of us here agree... It's the perception that's out there, getting play and another uphill fight for respect.

Huh? Perception? Memphis is perceived to have the best fan base in this conference?
 
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Huh? Perception? Memphis is perceived to have the best fan base in this conference?

My only point on perception is this article is all over the "American Athletic Conference Fan" Facebook page, in the Twitterverse and being batted around on other boards.
 

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My point on perception is this article is all over the American Facebook page, in the Twitterverse and being batted around on other boards.

I follow every decent read on Twitter related to the AAC, Louisville and Rutgers - I have not seen it anywhere but here.
 
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I follow every decent read on Twitter related to the AAC, Louisville and Rutgers - I have not seen it anywhere but here.

Key words - "decent read".

I haven't seen many discussions other than on the CSNbbs American Board (http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=641851) and multiple re-tweets of their initial Tweet which was sent to all the CFB media folks you would think - Adelson, Wolken, Fowler, Schad, Brando, Maisel, Dobbs, etc...

Example:

Sports Mkt Analytics@sportsmktprof 11h
@EyeOnCFB Analytic Ranking of 'Best' football fans in AAC: 1) SMU 2) Memphis 3) UCF - http://ow.ly/nqeUF
 
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I thought Emory's job was to raise money for UConn, not make them look bad. Confusing......
 

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Key words - "decent read".

I haven't seen many discussions other than on the CSNbbs American Board (http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=641851) and multiple re-tweets of their initial Tweet which was sent to all the CFB media folks you would think - Adelson, Wolken, Fowler, Schad, Brando, Maisel, Dobbs, etc...

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Sports Mkt Analytics@sportsmktprof 11h
@EyeOnCFB Analytic Ranking of 'Best' football fans in AAC: 1) SMU 2) Memphis 3) UCF - http://ow.ly/nqeUF

So there is little conversation and no legitimate CFB media members have mentioned this. The one conversation held in an echo chamber between a dozen people pretty much mocks the conclusion.

I'm not even sure what your point is? Some flawed formula that everyone ignored is evidence of what?
 
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So there is little conversation and no legitimate CFB media members have mentioned this. The one conversation held in an echo chamber between a dozen people pretty much mocks the conclusion.

I'm not even sure what your point is? Some flawed formula that everyone ignored is evidence of what?

Spin it spanky, spin it... it's out there. That's all I said.
 

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Spin it spanky, spin it...

Guy, you are the one proposing that a study that claims Temple has a better fanbase than Louisville is legitimate.

I'm pretty sure you are the one engaged in spin - I can not even fathom why you'd take this seriously or try to claim anyone else in the world is.

Your big example is one retweet from a nameless twitter account and a 20 post conversation on a meaningless message board that mocks the findings.
 

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I think I can't quote your post because you deleted it - which is unfortunate because it was filled with hilarious stuff.
 
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I think I can't quote your post because you deleted it - which is unfortunate because it was filled with hilarious stuff.

It wasn't that funny that's why I deleted it, It's not worth a continuing battle over.
 
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