OT- Kemba Kyrie?

[tzznandrew]

They had a muchhhhhh better bench than they do now its not even close.

They also were down 3-1 in one series and lost in the Finals to a team they destroyed the next two years with Durant.

 

[Walker11]

Who really cares what any of us think. Most of us barely even watch the NBA. The growing sentiment from smart NBA writers is that Kemba has caught up but Kyrie is probably still a little better, culture killing aside. This was a popular debate point on the NBA podcast circuit in November/December before Kemba faded a little.

 

[Travelman6]

Option #2. He will still be remembered as the greatest Hornet of all time if he leaves this summer.

Love Kemba but greatest Hornet of all time? Not sure. Larry Johnson, Glen Rice and Alonzo Mourning could challenge for that title. At the very least those 4 are on a Charlotte Hornets Mt. Rushmore. Hornets haven't had a heck of a lot of great players IMO. (You could make an argument for Dell Curry replacing one of those).

 

[formerlurker]

What does the draft pick have to do with it?

I thought Irving was a free agent.

He means if the Knicks only get Kyrie and their 3rd pick this year, that’s not enough. Basically saying Kyrie can’t lead a team on his own with young kids.

 

[TheChamps990411]

Why is everything in free agency always linked to Kyrie Irving? You hear it over and over, if the Knicks get Kyrie they also get Durant. If the Knicks get Kyrie they get Durant and Davis. Why does all this stuff always revolve around Kyrie and never a peep about Kemba?

Kemba is almost 2 years older but Is Kyrie that much better than Kemba? I see two comparable players at this point, one of which is a great teammate and the other shows signs of being a headcase.

Id take Kemba. Kyrie isn't a guy who's going to lead anyone anywhere.

 

[Dogdeacon]

Love Kemba but greatest Hornet of all time? Not sure. Larry Johnson, Glen Rice and Alonzo Mourning could challenge for that title. At the very least those 4 are on a Charlotte Hornets Mt. Rushmore. Hornets haven't had a heck of a lot of great players IMO. (You could make an argument for Dell Curry replacing one of those).

Well, none of the top 50 greatest Celtics ever would even allow Kyrie to Sherpa water on a trek up Celtics Rushmore.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Kyrie is straight up a glorified version of Kemba because of one shot. He shoots a tad better but is arguably not as good of a scorer. All bias aside they are pretty equal imo.

 

[KingAG]

Kyrie is straight up a glorified version of Kemba because of one shot. He shoots a tad better but is arguably not as good of a scorer. All bias aside they are pretty equal imo.

Kyrie is a little bigger. Which matters in the playoffs

 

[Scoe]

Would only want Kyrie on the Knicks if KD is there, would rather sign no one then get Kyrie by himself, would prefer Kemba over Kyrie, would take Kemba by himself.

 

[SubInATub]

Love Kemba but greatest Hornet of all time? Not sure. Larry Johnson, Glen Rice and Alonzo Mourning could challenge for that title. At the very least those 4 are on a Charlotte Hornets Mt. Rushmore. Hornets haven't had a heck of a lot of great players IMO. (You could make an argument for Dell Curry replacing one of those).

Besides Curry those players you named have spent no more than 5 seasons on the Hornets maybe? Kemba all time points leader and 3rd most games played. So yes, Kemba is the top Hornet of all time.

 

[HuskyHawk]

And that team lost to a vastly inferior Cavs team. One that they steamrolled twice with Durant.

Before Durant this core lost that series. Lost a series to the spurs (pre-title) where it blew like 2 separate 20 point leads.

It also had, allegedly a historically easy path in 2015 and 16. The Chris Paul trade was a major change that only happened post Durant.

A lot of factors when you’re using such a small sample size.

GS was the best team in the league for two years in a row when Durant was still in OKC. I think it’s crazy to say that they are better without him, but their team identity was better. Just as Boston’s was better without Kyrie.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Who really cares what any of us think. Most of us barely even watch the NBA. The growing sentiment from smart NBA writers is that Kemba has caught up but Kyrie is probably still a little better, culture killing aside. This was a popular debate point on the NBA podcast circuit in November/December before Kemba faded a little.

I think Kylie probably has more talent. That said, looking at a team like the Celtics, with young guys who are growing and learning, Kemba would be the better fit. He plays with a smile like Magic, he lifts the people around him. He’s actually ideal on a team with lots of good players. Kyrie needs a different situation.

 

[the Q]

GS was the best team in the league for two years in a row when Durant was still in OKC. I think it’s crazy to say that they are better without him, but their team identity was better. Just as Boston’s was better without Kyrie.

Golden state also went 6 games against the Cavs without love and Kyrie in 2015.

If Iman shumpert hits that 3 at the end of regulation in game 1, then Kyrie doesn’t get hurt in OT...and there’s no question about KD here.

 

[BleedHuskyBlu]

What is there not to believe in? Those are facts.

Is it still facts that the Warriors are better without KD?

 

[superjohn]

Is it still facts that the Warriors are better without KD?

There's no way you really believe this

What is there not to believe in? Those are facts.

You're really bad at this.
He posted facts.

 

[SubbaBub]

Kyrie would be Melo had Melo never been born.