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OT Jon Rahm to LIV

huskyfan224 said:
Doesn’t change the fact that LIV is a terrible product that nobody watches. Rahm isn’t going to change that
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but he'll play less golf and be much richer
plus, the Euro's will now change their Ryder Cup rules so he can play
not bad at all
 
Rahm grabbed his bag of cash. I have no problem with that. He will still be in three majors every year (maybe all four). Eventually there will be some type of merger and he will still have his cash. I haven't watched much LIV golf and I don't care for the format but I have no problem with players taking the money. It is professional sports.
 
Really interested to see what this starts doing to tournaments on the tour, tickets sales/sponsorships are going to be impacted greatly. Not good, I enjoy a competitive field every year at Travelers and Valspar.
 
OceanDoggie said:
If you can build the business case I'm sure they'll jump:

www.nytimes.com

Why Is There So Much Saudi Money in American Universities? (Published 2019)

Saudi Arabia has quietly directed tens of millions of dollars a year to American universities from M.I.T. to Northern Kentucky. What are the nation’s rulers getting out of it?
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Business case?? Do you think there is a business case to LIV?? They are hemorraghing cash at an alarming rate. There are no TV dollars. No spectator dollars to speak of. And they are already into it for multiple billions of dollars. There is nothing to this that has anything to do with business.
 
uconngb said:
Business case?? Do you think there is a business case to LIV?? They are hemorraghing cash at an alarming rate. There are no TV dollars. No spectator dollars to speak of. And they are already into it for multiple billions of dollars. There is nothing to this that has anything to do with business.
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Calm down Buddy.

The business case is influence and ROI, which is entirely driven by business.

The Saudis are not just hemorrhaging cash; they have an economical outlook past their oil reserves. Same as the U.A.E.

The Saudis are one of the leaders in alternative energy research, with Hydrogen and carbon capture methods.

They are already on track for most of their energy consumption to be sourced on renewable energies by 2030.
 
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I'm just a casual golf fan. I watch the majors and other assorted PGA tournaments especially Travelers. Player movement doesn't move the needle for me any more. I can't fault Rahm for taking the money especially after the PGA left Rory to wither on the vine.
 
bfs3 said:
I’m not a golfer because the few times I played I was awful, lost everyone’s golf balls and generally just humiliated myself. I’d love to be an even below average novice if it was possible.

Maybe a real golf fan can explain this to me. I thought that they were merging with the PGA tour? If so, why are they still signing players and at crazy amounts? If they are merged couldn’t they just pay them in a similar way the tour does with a pool of money? Also, what sucks so much about the product? (Other than the fact that it’s golf on TV)
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I think this is probably to help with final negotiations. The two organizations have an agreement and they are just hammering out final details as far as i know. I think LIV continuing to sign players helps their negotiating leverage
 
OceanDoggie said:
Calm down Buddy.

The business case is influence and ROI, which is entirely driven by business.

The Saudis are not just hemorrhaging cash; they have an economical outlook past their oil reserves. Same as the U.A.E.

The Saudis are one of the leaders in alternative energy research, with Hydrogen and carbon capture methods.

They are already on track for most of their energy consumption to be sourced on renewable energies by 2030.
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You obviously don’t understand business. There is NO ROI on this “investment” by the Saudi’s. There is no path to an ROI. They are just dumping cash into this. Period.

“Influence” is not ROI. Nothing that you discussed about their energy has anything to do with the profitability or viability of the money they are dumping into LIV. I can’t believe I am even arguing about this with you. There is ZERO business case to their investment in Liv.
 
superjohn said:
It's guys walking and then standing there hitting a ball. I can see how it's boring to many.
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Even Rahm said, the total time during a round he is actually swinging a club is less than 5 minutes.
 
If he has any legacy concerns left... he is working on a ten-year exemption for the US Open, lifetime exemption for the Masters and 5 years for the Open Championship and the PGA as he is heading into his thirties. Amazing what money does, enough of it can make an astronaut tell you the earth is flat. Isn't that right Jon?
 
Hoops91 said:
Really interested to see what this starts doing to tournaments on the tour, tickets sales/sponsorships are going to be impacted greatly. Not good, I enjoy a competitive field every year at Travelers and Valspar.
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Wells Fargo wanted to stay in but didn't want to pay what the Tour was asking. Rham's contract is for three years, his advisors and he probably betting things will be resolved/ merged by then?
 
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uconngb said:
You obviously don’t understand business. There is NO ROI on this “investment” by the Saudi’s. There is no path to an ROI. They are just dumping cash into this. Period.

“Influence” is not ROI. Nothing that you discussed about their energy has anything to do with the profitability or viability of the money they are dumping into LIV. I can’t believe I am even arguing about this with you. There is ZERO business case to their investment in Liv.
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Ok, I know nothing of business. Lol

I just love when a fool says "obviously", and continues on without a counter argument. You also misquoted me, as I said influence, followed by the operator "&", then ROI. Oh, and here is some reading for your sleepy processing power: Return on Influence, the New ROI

I just explained to you their 2030 plan, and how their model is adjacent to the U.A.E.

Energy Independence is step 1, sport and attraction is step 2--this includes side shows like tyson Fury, all the way to Rinaldo, and step 3 is construction of "The Line". This is chess, not checkers. Influence is the ultimate compliment to ROI. Its ever the same, but in the real world you need both to move the needle.
 
Isn’t competition good? Not sure what the big deal is, if the pga is concerned they’re going to have to evolve and figure out a way to keep the top players.

The league with the top players (and bigger $) is going to attract the next generation of top players, regardless of the format/tradition/location.
 
BrysonDeMan said:
but he'll play less golf and be much richer
plus, the Euro's will now change their Ryder Cup rules so he can play
not bad at all
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Not faulting him for taking $

LIV Golf is just horrendous product. I can’t take people seriously who think otherwise
 
Hoops91 said:
Really interested to see what this starts doing to tournaments on the tour, tickets sales/sponsorships are going to be impacted greatly. Not good, I enjoy a competitive field every year at Travelers and Valspar.
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isn't the Travelers one of the "main" events that the players are forced into playing?
if you miss too many, they fine you?
 
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