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Message: [QUOTE="storrsroars, post: 2883904, member: 2500"] Point to me an MLB owner or ownership group in the past 30 years who's gone into his/their own pocket. It's possible Ilitch might have just to see a winner before he died, but I'm not aware of any others. The NFL/NBA/NHL wouldn't be viable at their current # of teams without caps. As long as TV deals are integral for revenue, the deck is stacked against small markets. Like I said earlier, being in a small market in MLB is like being in the G5. I could deal with a floor if it's reasonable. However, I don't see a point in paying players that don't produce a ton of money just for purposes of meeting requirements of a "floor". Often when I see a floor discussed, it's in the $130 range. I'd start at $75-$80. And to answer your first question - yes, I think Huntington did that on his own, thinking that Pirates coaching could fix any pitcher. He was actually quoted as saying, "pitchers should pay us to pitch here," in regards to Happ. Nutting may set a target budget, but he doesn't meddle with specifics, unless it's a bad character issue that affects PR. Btw, I'm thoroughly enjoying this thread. Being banned from the women's board and all those OT threads over there and being banned from the Cesspool... I've missed arguing with everyone :cool: [/QUOTE]