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Nice piece in Esquire by a former athlete and current Mom on the value of old-school coaches.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/old-school-coaches

When someone is bearing down on us, jamming a thick finger at our faces, it's a make-or-break moment. Are you really trying your best? Or can you go further? Deeper into yourself, for the benefit of the people around you? Usually you can.

The old-school coach also teaches old-fashioned penance. Also a good thing.

I can't deal with yelling parents. I loathe yelling teachers. But you want your kid to learn how to physically and mentally find their limit? Find an old dude with a whistle around his neck and a stopwatch. I wouldn't be who I am without the ones who forced me to field unwieldy short hop grounders for a half-hour after softball practice to make me less afraid of the unexpected — and of pain. (I think it was good prep for parenting, now that I think of it.)

I've had _____ who torture you because they're into that sort of thing. They're the ones who make you play through the knee injury (or, in my quarterback brother's case, through the ruptured spleen that nearly killed him). They bench you because they don't like you, or they make you run because they like watching lady bounce. Or _____ like Mike Rice, who aren't smart enough to teach you, so they'll degrade you instead, fueled by unnamed furies that they desperately hope will dissipate by causing a kid harm.

I am not in favor of that kind of coach.


 

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Good read. Thanks for posting. This mom 'gets it'.
 

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Very cool piece. The comments were interesting too.

We are very black and white in this country. To one person who posted a comment, yelling is ok only when it is positive, telling the athlete what a good job they are doing. Anything else is verbal abuse. I think they missed the point, it isn't that simple to quantify.

I'm pretty sure Geno and Vivian do a fair amount of yelling - I don't think they abuse.
 

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Most aren't armed with Geno's rapier wit and skill at sarcasm.
 

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Thank you for posting that! That is a great article and reinforces what I think about good coaching and bad coaching. I have no problem with anything she says and a big problem with a lot of criticism of tough coaches and their behavior. And she makes the clear distinction between tough and sadistic.
I have no idea about the situation at Holy Cross but from the outside Gibbons strikes me as that old style coach.
And the example of the swim coach trying to grab a player out of the pool - sometime a reasonable amount of physical contact is necessary to get the attention of or to reposition an athlete who is not concentrating or fooling around. Pulling a child out of a pool could be made to sound unreasonable and yet could also be a perfectly valid response.
 
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it's a very fine line. don't hear many people complaining about coaches who yell. what they yell, and what else they do besides yelling is the point.
 

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it's a very fine line. don't hear many people complaining about coaches who yell. what they yell, and what else they do besides yelling is the point.

The author makes that point.
 
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I think it depends on who and what you're coaching too. It's obviously very different coaching a D1 college sport compared to coaching kids(and even that's different in itself).
 
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