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Message: [QUOTE="uconn_jack, post: 2326009, member: 2056"] *Raises Hand* I am a scientist, hydrogeologist, and use groundwater modeling all the time to evaluate groundwater flow dynamics and geochemical reactions to try and predict contaminated groundwater plume migration and attenuation. They are a useful tool, but they do not provide the answers. They only help you guess what the answers might be, and you use them to design ACTUAL scientific data collection. And I'll tell you, much of the time the models are way off of real world conditions, and the system we are trying to model is far less complex and better understood than climate. The EPA or DEP don't let us use modelling data to demonstrate environmental compliance, it has to be supported by data that validates the model. However, for some reason, climate modelling results are accepted as reality of what will likely happen despite a lack of sufficient actual data to support it, if not observations that are in opposition to their predictions. So you do not convince me that modelling results are proof of "climate change", or even accurately predicting actual climate change, just because you have a master's "based on global climate" (and what does that even mean, are you a climatologist?) [/QUOTE]