OT. How good is Duke going to be next year? | Page 2 | The Boneyard

OT. How good is Duke going to be next year?

Considering how poor a coach they have, I'll be shocked if the team is bought in by the end of the season to do something special. Winning is hard.
 
I get that everybody has overhyped Flagg. I just don’t see how he’s that much better than Donyell as a freshman. And, yeah, Yell was really good - but you’d need a sophomore season to get into hopes of being the star on a potential title winning team. Heck, I’m not sure Flagg is as good as Castle. I bet Castle could shut him down.
 
Scottzer said:
I get that everybody has overhyped Flagg. I just don’t see how he’s that much better than Donyell as a freshman. And, yeah, Yell was really good - but you’d need a sophomore season to get into hopes of being the star on a potential title winning team. Heck, I’m not sure Flagg is as good as Castle. I bet Castle could shut him down.
Expand ...
Flagg seems kind of lanky and thin. He could get punished.
 
Duke's lineup this year:
Roach (graduating)- Foster (returning)
McCain (nba)--------Blakes (returning)
Proctor (nba)
Mitchell (transferring)
Filipowski (nba)------Ryan Young (graduating)

So Foster and Blakes are the only 2 rotation guys expected to return. Buried on the bench was also 5* SF TJ Power and 4* PF Sean Stewart.

next year's recruiting class includes: 5* PF Cooper Flagg / 5* C Khaman Maluach / 5* W Isaiah Evans / 5* W Kon Knueppel / 4* C Pat Ngongba / 4* W Darren Harris.

Next year's projected lineup:
Foster (4* soph)---Blakes (3* senior)
Evans (5* frosh)---Harris (4* frosh)
Power (5* soph)---Knueppel (5* frosh)
Flagg (5* frosh)----Stewart (4* soph)
Maluach (5* frosh)-Ngongba (4* frosh)

so basically Scheyer is picking up where Calipari left off. 1 upperclassman and he's gonna be their 10th man. good luck with that.
 
Last edited:
bendm said:
Duke's lineup this year:
Roach (graduating)- Foster (returning)
McCain (nba)--------Blakes (returning)
Proctor (nba)
Mitchell (transferring)
Filipowski (nba)------Ryan Young (graduating)

So Foster and Blakes are the only 2 rotation guys expected to return. Buried on the bench was also 5* SF TJ Power and 4* PF Sean Stewart.

next year's recruiting class includes: 5* PF Cooper Flagg / 5* C Khaman Maluach / 5* W Isaiah Evans / 5* W Kon Knueppel / 4* C Pat Ngongba / 4* W Darren Harris.

Next year's projected lineup:
Foster (4* soph)---Blakes (3* senior)
Evans (5* frosh)---Harris (4* frosh)
Power (5* soph)---Knueppel (5* frosh)
Flagg (5* frosh)----Stewart (4* soph)
Maluach (5* frosh)-Ngongba (4* frosh)

so basically Scheyer is picking up where Calipari left off. 1 upperclassman and he's gonna be their 10th man. good luck with that.
Expand ...
Duke’s biggest problem is Scheye, because Scheyer Whois the guy that followed THE GUY. The next coach will be their best bet to restore the program’s, ahem, ‘legacy’.
 
bendm said:
Duke's lineup this year:
Roach (graduating)- Foster (returning)
McCain (nba)--------Blakes (returning)
Proctor (nba)
Mitchell (transferring)
Filipowski (nba)------Ryan Young (graduating)

So Foster and Blakes are the only 2 rotation guys expected to return. Buried on the bench was also 5* SF TJ Power and 4* PF Sean Stewart.

next year's recruiting class includes: 5* PF Cooper Flagg / 5* C Khaman Maluach / 5* W Isaiah Evans / 5* W Kon Knueppel / 4* C Pat Ngongba / 4* W Darren Harris.

Next year's projected lineup:
Foster (4* soph)---Blakes (3* senior)
Evans (5* frosh)---Harris (4* frosh)
Power (5* soph)---Knueppel (5* frosh)
Flagg (5* frosh)----Stewart (4* soph)
Maluach (5* frosh)-Ngongba (4* frosh)

so basically Scheyer is picking up where Calipari left off. 1 upperclassman and he's gonna be their 10th man. good luck with that.
Expand ...

I can't see Power starting at the 3. He would be a mess defensively, though I guess with Flagg and Maluach behind him he has a lot of latitude. Stewart needs a lot of work to play the modern four, he is poor shooting for a center let alone a PF, even as a backup. Good rebounder though. I think they go:

Next year's projected lineup:
Foster (4* soph)---Blakes (3* senior)
Evans (5* frosh)---Harris (4* frosh)
Knueppel (5* frosh)---Flagg/Harris/Evans
Flagg (5* frosh)---Power (5* soph)
Maluach (5* frosh)----Stewart (4* soph)----Ngongba (4* frosh)
 
.-.
bendm said:
Duke's lineup this year:
Roach (graduating)- Foster (returning)
McCain (nba)--------Blakes (returning)
Proctor (nba)
Mitchell (transferring)
Filipowski (nba)------Ryan Young (graduating)

So Foster and Blakes are the only 2 rotation guys expected to return. Buried on the bench was also 5* SF TJ Power and 4* PF Sean Stewart.

next year's recruiting class includes: 5* PF Cooper Flagg / 5* C Khaman Maluach / 5* W Isaiah Evans / 5* W Kon Knueppel / 4* C Pat Ngongba / 4* W Darren Harris.

Next year's projected lineup:
Foster (4* soph)---Blakes (3* senior)
Evans (5* frosh)---Harris (4* frosh)
Power (5* soph)---Knueppel (5* frosh)
Flagg (5* frosh)----Stewart (4* soph)
Maluach (5* frosh)-Ngongba (4* frosh)

so basically Scheyer is picking up where Calipari left off. 1 upperclassman and he's gonna be their 10th man. good luck with that.
Expand ...
Meh not impressed with all burger boys starting lineup. Ive seen too many 5 star freshmen laden teams from kentucky/Duke choke too many times in the tourney.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
With Scheyer as his coach Flagg’s another Felipe Lopez. Scheyer might be gone in 3 or 4 years, give it time.
Expand ...
Felipe did not have the quality supporting cast that Flagg will have.

With all those other 5 star players, opposing defenses won't be able to key on him. So, unless he becomes the Duke equivalent of Ajou Ajou or Ater Majok, he should flourish.

Scheyer isn't going to deflate his balloon. Flagg will have to self-destruct, which I seriously doubt will happen with all his talent.
 
CTFIRERETIRED said:
Duke has the top recruiting class coming in, headlined with national POY Cooper Flagg.
My question is; Will they be 24-25 champion in waiting? All of those 4 and 5 star recruits look impressive on paper, but an old sage once said that the game is not played on paper.
A number of current players are already leaving the program, current coach Schyer is NOT coach K. It remains to be seen whether or not they are going to be the toast of college basketball. Any thoughts on this?
Expand ...
Scheyers player development and coaching has looked suspect.

They’ll still be a second weekend team probably at worst. Flagg is legit
 
.-.
REB1094 said:
They will be very good, but as we’re all learning in his current era of college ball, experience and coaching takes you farther in March

High ranking, high seed, plenty of memorable moments, #1 draft pick hype, but probably won’t win it all

That’s a historic and very successful season. But Duke expects championships and I don’t think they win it unless they grab some big transfers. So unless they make a final 4, their fanbase might be disappointed
Expand ...

I'd argue this was the case in 2011 and 2014. UK was already doing the 1-and-done thing by 2011 and Duke joined them soon after. Both title teams had a good mix of young talent and veteran leadership.
 
There will be far fewer sixth year players next year with the Covid year phasing out. So that should help teams comprised mainly of freshmen and sophomores some. But those teams are still vulnerable in the tournament to losing to more experienced teams. Particularly if a freshmen heavy team lost the bulk of their experience to graduation or the portal.
 
caw said:
Next year's projected lineup:
Foster (4* soph)---Blakes (3* senior)
Evans (5* frosh)---Harris (4* frosh)
Knueppel (5* frosh)---Flagg/Harris/Evans
Flagg (5* frosh)---Power (5* soph)
Maluach (5* frosh)----Stewart (4* soph)----Ngongba (4* frosh)
Expand ...
If power is stuck behind Flagg then he needs to enter the portal, cause He’s not gonna get quality PT until he’s a junior. I also don’t think Ngongba signed up to be the 3rd string center.
 
jibsey said:
Flagg seems kind of lanky and thin. He could get punished.
Expand ...
He's also going to be one of the youngest guys playing college ball next season. He's still going to be 17 until the end of December while playing against a bunch of 22, 23, and 24 year old men. He's obviously very talented, but I don't know if he'll have the physical maturity to be truly dominant next season.
 
Duke and Kentucky are always getting top recruits. It's hasn't translated to a championship in years
 
.-.
Funny people are dishing Scheyer, he has only been coach for 2 seasons and got them to the sweet 16, not much of a litmus test yet. I think long term he will be fine.
 
Jaker said:
Funny people are dishing Scheyer, he has only been coach for 2 seasons and got them to the sweet 16, not much of a litmus test yet. I think long term he will be fine.
Expand ...
People aren't going to give him credit for making it to the second weekend by beating a 13 and a 12. In fairness he did make the Elite 8, but did it by beating a Houston team that was down to about 5 players from their real rotation 10 minutes into that game, and they still barely beat them. Then they lost to an 11 seed.
 
CTFIRERETIRED said:
Duke has the top recruiting class coming in, headlined with national POY Cooper Flagg.
My question is; Will they be 24-25 champion in waiting? All of those 4 and 5 star recruits look impressive on paper, but an old sage once said that the game is not played on paper.
A number of current players are already leaving the program, current coach Schyer is NOT coach K. It remains to be seen whether or not they are going to be the toast of college basketball. Any thoughts on this?
Expand ...


There is still one basketball only so how well they meld together. The experts say they will be number 1, well they still play the game on the basketball court
 
Duke will win in a crappy ACC but with no upperclassmen don't see them doing much in the tournament. Scheyer will in turn replace Calipari at Arkansas
 
polycom said:
Considering how poor a coach they have, I'll be shocked if the team is bought in by the end of the season to do something special. Winning is hard.
Expand ...
But, but, but, they send out press releases every day touting the latest and greatest things Scheyer has done to make his players shoot better, rebound better, etc.
Every day he's doing great things that no other coach would think to do.
Then in another article they talk about how he'll now be pursuing a veteran point guard who entered the portal.
Makes you wonder who's next to go and what kind of vibes there'll be in the locker room when he brings all those 5 stars in and has to figure out how to keep them happy.
 
.-.
Orc said:
Top portal guys> Burger boys

Probably early exit like Kentucky.
Expand ...
If there is one thing that UConn demonstrated - it is the importance of a system of playing the game and the power of a Team working together for common goals. It was the epitome of the “We” vs, “Me.”

Add some experience w/ 4/5 year seniors and you have the chance to go far in the tourney.

Cooper might end up being a bit of distraction as I predicted if he had joined us… Maybe other players start feeling like the “supporting cast“ and they stop thinking of themselves as team first.

I like the comparison to Kentucky earlier in this thread. Lots of highlight reels in the regular season but flame out in the Final 8 once again is my best prediction.
 
UCan3 said:
If there is one thing that UConn demonstrated - it is the importance of a system of playing the game and the power of a Team working together for common goals. It was the epitome of the “We” vs, “Me.”

Add some experience w/ 4/5 year seniors and you have the chance to go far in the tourney.

Cooper might end up being a bit of distraction as I predicted if he had joined us… Maybe other players start feeling like the “supporting cast“ and they stop thinking of themselves as team first.

I like the comparison to Kentucky earlier in this thread. Lots of highlight reels in the regular season but flame out in the Final 8 once again is my best prediction.
Expand ...
Castle not being a distraction but being a team player was one of the most important reasons we repeated
 
The difference between Duke and UCONN:

Parents: ‘We want to hear about NIL opportunities and what you’re going to do to help Johnny get ready for the next level.’

Scheyer: ‘Glad you asked. Both are priorities here at Duke. We’ve prepared a multimedia presentation for you, curated specifically to Johnny’s interests. Please follow me to the fourth floor auditorium and we’ll get started.’

Hurley: ‘Yeah, that’s not priority one, two, or three at UCONN. I don’t think your son fits…..maybe you should call John Scheyer at Duke?’
 
Orc said:
Top portal guys> Burger boys

Probably early exit like Kentucky.
Expand ...
Never underestimate the Duke bias from officials in close games. It happens every time.
 
.-.
You must log in or register to reply here.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,223
Messages
4,558,021
Members
10,443
Latest member
StatsMan


Top Bottom