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Message: [QUOTE="superjohn, post: 1949332, member: 1522"] It's now sort of become a joke. I love Eli and everything Giants but I will also post when he's playing like a turd, half the reason is to get the Eli is amazing crowd to get up in arms a bit. He's had a very good career and has been unbelievably clutch in 4th quarters over the years. He's also turned the ball over more than anyone in the NFL the past 5 years, leads the league in fumbles the past 12 years and has led the league in INT's 3 times in his career. You take the good with the bad but you have to admit there is a lot of bad. [/QUOTE]