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Message: [QUOTE="nomar, post: 2187270, member: 651"] You know, I never ordered a "hamburger" in my life until I found out I was lactose intolerant. The first non-cheeseburger I had after that blew my mind; I'd never realized how little of the burger you actually taste when it's covered in cheese. The cheese obscures the beef more than any other topping, including ketchup. I miss dairy in a million ways but having a good burger enveloped in and overpowered by American or cheddar cheese is not really one of them. It sounds like you don't like burgers very much. But I guess when you're older then Methuselah, the taste buds are pretty much shot. Few foods are better than a quality medium rare burger. I sure don't mind adding (a) bacon and grilled onion or (b) dill pickles and lettuce (both variations with ketchup; sorry AW), but I'll also enjoy a good burger with just some Heinz. [/QUOTE]