OT: Fast Food veggie burger, BK Impossible Whopper

[elmcityboy]

What's the matter with men's health and soy? Soy sauce? Soybeans?

i'm no doctor, but i believe that soy has a compound in it that mimics estrogen in the body. hence alt-righters using the term "soy boy" to describe liberals that they perceive as "soft" or feminine, etc.

 

[Tenspro2002]

These impossible burgers are literally made in a lab. Nothing made in a lab is healthy. It’s full of chemicals. Eat all the meat you want but reduce sugar, grains, and vegetable oils. This fake meat craze is such a scam trying to capitalize on the plant based diet craze. It will come and go

Good God, everything is "chemicals". Natural vs. artificial does not matter. You could get water from a spring or produce water in a lab by burning hydrogen and oxygen like Matt Damon in The Martian, and it's literally the exact same thing.

So no, it being made in a lab is not what makes it unhealthy. It could be loaded with salt or all sorts of other things that you could also do to a meat burger and that would make it unhealthy. But the fact that it was created in a lab does not inherently make it unhealthy.

I say this as an avid meat-eater and as a scientist.

 

[Tenspro2002]

A lot of foods that are labeled low/reduced fat actually have more sodium and/or sugar in them to try to improve flavor. Just compare Skippy reduced fat peanut butter to Regular Skippy peanut butter. The reduced fat variety is higher in both sugar and sodium. This is just one example. I've seen things like this with a number of products when comparing nutritional labels. I've also seen "high fiber" versions of products with higher sugar content than the original version of that product and the fiber is just slightly higher. Unless you read the nutritional labels, you may not be eating as healthy as you think you are.

The most eye-opening thing for me was ice cream. For years I would almost exclusively eat reduced fat, but paying attention to the sugar content, it's off the charts.

The label for "added sugar" actually made a big difference. Some cereals that you previously thought of as healthy...not so much.

 

[intlzncster]

The most eye-opening thing for me was ice cream. For years I would almost exclusively eat reduced fat, but paying attention to the sugar content, it's off the charts.

The label for "added sugar" actually made a big difference. Some cereals that you previously thought of as healthy...not so much.

Healthy cereal in general is pretty rare in comparison to the total offerings.

 

[upstater]

so you dont eat any fruit?

Occasionally I will. I eat blueberries regularly with my Greek yogurt, almonds, walnuts. Sometimes I will eat a banana. But yes, other than those two I've been off fruit. I'm mixing in more carbs these days (we went out for Indian food today) but no wheat/breads.

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

Just saying fruit has sugar in it, its not added sugar which is great that you cut out but a lot more things have sugar even when you would think they dont.

 

[upstater]

Just saying fruit has sugar in it, its not added sugar which is great that you cut out but a lot more things have sugar even when you would think they dont.

Blueberries have very little sugar. 10 berries have 10 grams. Even with a packet of Stevia (which contains erythritol) has 2g.

These are minimal levels.

 

[Jletoile]

Well, to begin with it’s because meat isn’t bad for you. Red meat is perfectly healthy. It’s the things you eat with it that cause health problems. These impossible burgers are literally made in a lab. Nothing made in a lab is healthy. It’s full of chemicals. Eat all the meat you want but reduce sugar, grains, and vegetable oils. This fake meat craze is such a scam trying to capitalize on the plant based diet craze. It will come and go

It’s bad as hell for the cow though...

 

[bballgrda]

Yeah been reading and watching videos today, and one thing I noticed is that it all starts in a scientific laboratory and not a kitchen (think Grandma's pies/cookies). That's concerning knowing that level of experimentation for just the meat taste similarity that goes into it. It duplicates nothing or improves nothing (again like Grandma's pies/cookies), its all new with a whole lot of stuff mixed in the 'creation'.

In other words the chefs are actually scientists. Can't think of any other food product where you have this.

I would imagine that pretty much any food product that is processed is coming from people who are more "scientist" than chef.

The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food (Published 2013)

Inside the hyperengineered, savagely marketed, addiction-creating battle for American “stomach share.”

www.nytimes.com

 

[Travelman6]

Bring on the insects

Being promoted...

Eating bugs is the new trend in eating healthy

Consuming bugs is now a consumer trend. Entrepreneurs looking for new protein sources are starting to see some success in selling edible insects, so we decided to get a taste of the trend – literally.

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[Northbound]

So a little OT, and I think I’ve posted it before, but years ago some of my sons friends were over and I grilled up some burgers for them. I had forgotten that one of the boys moms was very vegetarian and that the kids were used to that.

Jimmy looks up at me and says hey “Mr. 82 which one of the burgers is the veggie burger?” I apologized and told him I forgotten that he was vegetarian and told him to give me a second and I’d grill something up for him. He was a good kid so he said “no that’s fine I’ll just have one of these.” I asked if he was sure and said it was no bother but he said yeah it’s fine.

Then he took his first bite. Look on his face was hysterical. It was like the hallelujah chorus should be playing in the background. He looks up at me and says “oh my god, this is amazing!!” and scorfed it down. I laughed and said “glad you liked it” and then really didn’t think much about it afterwards.

It was maybe a week or two later that I bumped into his mom at a game. She looks at me and says “hey CL! Thanks so much for giving my kid a burger! He completely won’t eat vegetarian anymore!“ Everyone looks back at me and I smiled and said an enthusiastic “you’re welcome Jill!“ as I kept walking to the other sideline to coach the game. The dad’s thought it was hysterical and truth be told I think even Jill thought it was kind of funny.

Reminds me of a time I was doing a pig roast. Had potatoes laying with the pig for hours and a friend and his wife come up from NYC and I toss a burger on the grill for him as they keep kosher. I pull the burger off and his wife goes, those are the best potatoes I've ever had how did you make those.

I just say - we just roast them a long time with a ton of butter - thinking the entire time of George Costanza in the "I was in the pool" episode where he had the woman eat lobster in the eggs.

 

[whaler11]

Being promoted...

Eating bugs is the new trend in eating healthy

Consuming bugs is now a consumer trend. Entrepreneurs looking for new protein sources are starting to see some success in selling edible insects, so we decided to get a taste of the trend – literally.

www.fox13news.com

if one is dumb enough to willingly eat bugs one is not probably worth saving...

 

[sledog]

You may be better off with real meat vs the salt burger,

Are Impossible and Beyond burgers better or worse than red meat?

Health experts have a beef with fake meat. Plant-based meats — lab-grown alternatives that look, smell and taste like the real deal — have never been bigger. Grocery stores and upscale restaurants …

nypost.com

 

[upstater]

You may be better off with real meat vs the salt burger,

Are Impossible and Beyond burgers better or worse than red meat?

Health experts have a beef with fake meat. Plant-based meats — lab-grown alternatives that look, smell and taste like the real deal — have never been bigger. Grocery stores and upscale restaurants …

nypost.com

It all depends on your body's relation to salt. There are a ton of people out there, especially women, who need a lot more salt in their diets.

 

[Chuck]

I think it's a pretty easy analysis: i) Impossible/Beyond are worth switching to for personal ethical or environmental beliefs. ii) they are a trap if you are looking at them for health reasons (highly processed, high calories, sodium, saturated fat, plus all the other stuff you eat with it (roll, cheese, fries)). But it's a personal decision.

 

[ctchamps]

It all depends on your body's relation to salt. There are a ton of people out there, especially women, who need a lot more salt in their diets.

This pretty much applies to everything we consume. Medical guidelines are arbitrarily established numbers that does not consider people who exist at the upper and lower ends of a distribution curve of individuals adaptation to substances.

Agree with you about refined sugars. That product has probably one of the smallest distribution curves of any food substance not known to be definitively toxic to the body. Sugar cane juice on the other hand has been shown to be beneficial. As an aside one of the biggest travesties in government subsidizations is the American sugar industry.

Although the following is not a scientific article on fruits it's pretty much my impression of the benefits of fruits. Disclaimer: There is no warning about oranges.

The Sweet Truth of Fruits.