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Message: [QUOTE="boba, post: 4301738, member: 1556"] On the other side of the issue. GRE and MCAT scores tell me very little about future performance of graduate students. Indeed the ones with the high scores often turn out to be the ones that are the weakest or simply not that good. I only did UG a couple of years and didn't see any correlation between their SAT or performance in college (but I was TA'ing Junior and Senior level courses. I look at the whole person and what they did with what they had. I sooner have a kid with 3.0 GPA and mediocre SAT who made sure his siblings were cared for and safe then another Berkeley grad (that we just put into Hahvahd Medical). That Berkeley grad did the minimum he could do (it was good enough) but cares about himself more than the community. He'll make a fine Hahvahd doctoh, which is to say patient mortality will not be optimum. Tests demonstrate you can take a test. Edit to add: I have a high school intern this summer, son of a friend. Kid is frighteningly smart - multivariate calculus in 11th grade - wants to do 3D reconstruction incorporating spatial genomics. Now both parents have PhD's so he was given a great deal, but he is also working as hard than any one else in the lab. His brother was wait-listed by Berkeley, because it's Berkeley. I'm pointing this one to Harvey Mudd as I haven't had any luck getting anyone in there yet. [/QUOTE]