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Message: [QUOTE="Fishy, post: 4301242, member: 38"] It was an absolutely brutal year. Test optional kids flooded the system and just took seats away. Your son’s application likely got three seconds of review. My daughter got waitlisted at G’town, American(!) and either got waitlisted or rejected by Tufts. Normal year…she likely gets into all three and maybe has a puncher’s chance at one of the lesser Ivys. This year….we did not even bother because we saw the crazy application numbers last year. [/QUOTE]