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Message: [QUOTE="upstater, post: 4277881, member: 153"] I understand what you're saying. A lot of undergrads don't mature enough to have a feasible project. I will say though that I've seen kids from, for instance, Appalachian State admitted with a full blown research project over a kid from Tufts whose project letter was blurry. I can't say GRE scores were ever discussed. I suppose a really low score would have us wondering. On the other hand, near perfect score (straight 800s) applicants are sometimes admitted because they are competitive in receiving full scholarships from the President's office, rather than the department they are applying to. [/QUOTE]