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Message: [QUOTE="BigTenFan, post: 4277764, member: 10240"] I agree with everything you wrote. I look at many of the STEM schools as high tech trade schools...but more expensive. Most kids going to these schools are focused on getting a tech job even before they graduate. It's just a different environment than many Liberal Arts colleges- not better or worse The other big thing changing the admission process is the common application. Kids are applying to 20 schools with no intention of attending many of them That causes the acceptance percentage to go way down and keep out some highly qualified students. Schools that were getting 10000 applications 10 years ago are now getting 40000. At the end of the day... The motivated kids will succeed no matter what their choice is [/QUOTE]