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[CONN78SEJ]

You're the one who brought up professional bodybuilders guy.

Still waiting on a single piece of real evidence.

I mentioned Olympic lifters also. Just pick two professional sports, say baseball and basketball. Which sport emphasizes hitting the weight room? Why do former NBA players have an average lifespan of 82 years, when former NFL players have an average lifespan of 59 years? Running is good for you, lifting weights not so much.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Still waiting

Keep doing those bench presses and one day you’ll stop waiting.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Resistance training is only good for you if you’re under 30, and really bad for you if you’re over 40, give or take.

This is a mind-bendingly bad take. I don't care what you do in your personal life, but I hope no one who is reading this takes you at your word here. It's crazy that you continue to double and triple down on it.

 

[husky429]

Keep doing those bench presses and one day you’ll stop waiting.

This is a cute way of saying "I have zero evidence."

Might want to talk to your doc about getting a cognitive work up done, old timer

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Why do former NBA players have an average lifespan of 82 years, when former NFL players have an average lifespan of 59 years?

Great point. It's too bad that there's nothing about the nature of NFL football versus NBA basketball that might explain this. It must be the fact that NFL players life weights and . . . . what? NBA players don't? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the effects of running into human missiles 50 times a game for years.

 

[husky429]

Great point. It's too bad that there's nothing about the nature of NFL football versus NBA basketball that might explain this. It must be the fact that NFL players life weights and . . . . what? NBA players don't? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the effects of running into human missiles 50 times a game for years.

My buddy was an NFL lineman for 6 years. I'm thinking the decade of debilitating headaches he's suffered from must be because of all that damned bench pressing. If only he'd known to stay away from the weights.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

You brought up professional bodybuilders. They're all on anabolic steroids and things like HGH, insulin, and other compounds.

Hey, O'Hearn is natural. That's just duck eggs and a good night's sleep.

 

[superjohn]

Hey, O'Hearn is natural. That's just duck eggs and a good night's sleep.

 

[RuffRuff]

It depends on your age I’m in my 80’s
I’m a huge believer in walking
and I still do between 300,,000-350,000 steps every month ..
There comes a point in your age where riunning can do more harm than good as it eventually can take a toll on your knees.
I also believe in strength training with light weights as you naturally weaken with age and it slows the process. Balance and Flexibility are also important.
I think the two critical things about maintaining your energy as you age are keeping active .and keeping your weight down .

I live in and active adult community the couple across the street are in the 90’s a still walk a mile every morning
But we have swimmers , golfers , Pickleball , players, serious walkers , and simply dog walkers all over .80 . Just keep moving

Been running for a long time - made the transition from the heel to toe to mid point strike, game changer. More stress on the calf as they act as shock absorbers, but much less impact heel through knees through hips. Put the stress on the soft tissue not the joints. Have had zero issues.

Attia also talks about needs impact exercises like box jumps as they promote bone density. Running satisfies bit of this.

 

[RuffRuff]

This guy has the same surgeon as Kim Kardashian.

 

[thekollieman]

Oh yes I do, you’re on the wrong side this time. Eat it…….and I never mentioned steroids , GH, or insulin, you did, and Olympic lifters are in that same group. The research is there.

It sounds like you’re assuming that resistance training must mean maxing out with weights, in which case you would have a point. But, of course, lifting weights can be done at low intensity too. I’m giving you an off ramp here, and you’d be wise to take it…

 

[pj]

Bodybuilding is harmful, weightlifting is not. Strength is good, bulk is bad -- bulk indicates muscle injury. The healthiest muscles are wiry, with a high ratio of strength to size. The heart is a muscle, and bulky muscles tend to be associated with cardiomegaly and a high risk of heart disease.

In general endurance/cardio sports lead to longer lifespans than weightlifting/power sports. For example, Survival of the fittest: retrospective cohort study of the longevity of Olympic medallists in the modern era - PubMed, "Medallists in endurance sports and mixed sports had a larger survival advantage over controls at 30 years (1.13, 1.09 to 1.17; 1.11, 1.09 to 1.13) than that of medallists in power sports (1.05, 1.01 to 1.08)."

 

[CONN78SEJ]

It sounds like you’re assuming that resistance training must mean maxing out with weights, in which case you would have a point. But, of course, lifting weights can be done at low intensity too. I’m giving you an off ramp here, and you’d be wise to take it…

I said that earlier but you and the rest of the idiots on this board chose to ignore that. I’m done here. You people are nuts.

 

[SixRings]

What’s better for the body
Treadmill at 11.5 mph for 45 sec flat run
Or
8.7 mph 6 grade for 2:15
I do a walk for 15 min at 3.6 prior to the sprint
Ty

Right in the middle with a 10 mph prance.

 

[RuffRuff]

I said that earlier but you and the rest of the idiots on this board chose to ignore that. I’m done here. You people are nuts.

Half the time when I’m here I feel like I’m hanging in an online senior citizen center full of geezers wearing overalls with their dentures out who just need to shed domineering opinion and jump at the chance of correcting a grammatical error. The Boneyard is a weird place. Lots of amyloid plaque build up here. Hans is a great case in point.

 

[husky429]

I said that earlier but you and the rest of the idiots on this board chose to ignore that. I’m done here. You people are nuts.

Actually you said the only purpose of light or moderate resistance training is to stave off brittle bones. More crap with no basis in fact.

Still waiting on that research though.

 

[husky429]

Half the time when I’m here I feel like I’m hanging in an online senior citizen center full of geezers wearing overalls with their dentures out who just need to shed domineering opinion and jump at the chance of correcting a grammatical error. The Boneyard is a weird place. Lots of amyloid plaque build up here. Hans is a great case in point.

Brother the person you're responding to is an octogenarian fighting for his life to remember his childrens' names

 

[superjohn]

Half the time when I’m here I feel like I’m hanging in an online senior citizen center full of geezers wearing overalls with their dentures out who just need to shed domineering opinion and jump at the chance of correcting a grammatical error. The Boneyard is a weird place. Lots of amyloid plaque build up here. Hans is a great case in point.

He said resistance training is only good for you if you're under 30 and really bad for you if you're over 40.

People have been incredibly gentle with him considering how mind numbingly stupid that statement is and the posts he followed it up with.

 

[87Xfer]

Lol. Professional bodybuilders have an average mean lifespan of 47.7 years. Look it up genius. Weightlifting is ok while your body is growing but it’s bad for the cardiovascular system as you get older and graye

Resistance training is only good for you if you’re under 30, and really bad for you if you’re over 40, give or take. Cardio (running, swimming, stairs) is good for you no matter what age you’re at. The reason is you’re working your cardiovascular system with volume work, basically training your heart to pump more blood per beat, but with resistance training (pressure work), everything is contracting (and raising blood pressure) to move some heavy weights, instead of moving your own two feet, or if you’re swimming and you’re buoyant. Light and moderate resistance training is OK if all you’re trying to do is staving off brittle bones as you age.

You're either trolling or you're an idiot.

 

[jibsey]

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1 year of heavy resistance training benefits older adults, study finds

A recent study found that heavy resistance training among older adults may help preserve leg muscle function better than moderate-intensity or not exercising.

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Twice a Week to a Stronger You - Resistance Training is Crucial for Older Adults

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Why strength training is key to your long-term health | CNN

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I believe this to be true and some weight resistance in workouts are being touted as beneficial to maintain muscle mass and bones. It’s never to late to incorporate it but older people should get clearance from their doctors as to how much and what to do.

 

[husky429]

I believe this to be true and some weight resistance in workouts are being touted as beneficial to maintain muscle mass and bones. It’s never to late to incorporate it but older people should get clearance from their doctors as to how much and what to do.

I find throwing two plates on the bar for the 60+ crowd and rolling the dice more appropriate. Survival of the fittest

 

[Scrappy3]

I was able to do 11.6 today flat for 1 minute after doing 4 uphill workouts in a row. I have Parkinson’s msa(6 th yr) and I’m grateful I can still exercise at all. It’s not easy typing this post

In terms of resistance training it’s a no brainer to do it at any age. The picture of me on my profile is me 3 years ago 6-1 200 3 years into disease although side effects still minimal. Now down to 170 with many issues. But my neuro cardio and other specialists are encouraging of me to workout. I like posting stuff like this to hear other opinions which is appreciated

 

[Conndog]

I just want (and need) to start stretching and increasing flexibility. At age 67, it’s worrying how stiff I feel- only exercise I really do now is walking carrying my clubs and doing nine holes of golf. Any good advice on basic stretching and calisthenics for an otherwise healthy not overweight 67 year old guy? Next year, my wife and I will go on a month-long hike in Spain (500 miles with backpack- the Santiago Camino), so I want to start getting in shape and maintaining thru winter

 

[husky429]

I just want (and need) to start stretching and increasing flexibility. At age 67, it’s worrying how stiff I feel- only exercise I really do now is walking carrying my clubs and doing nine holes of golf. Any good advice on basic stretching and calisthenics for an otherwise healthy not overweight 67 year old guy? Next year, my wife and I will go on a month-long hike in Spain (500 miles with backpack- the Santiago Camino), so I want to start getting in shape and maintaining thru winter

I'd do your mobility and strength work too. Exercises like split squats and romanian deadlifts are important for hiking.

You need a baseline of flexibility to function but past that a static stretch isn't doing much for your without strength.

 

[jibsey]

I was able to do 11.6 today flat for 1 minute after doing 4 uphill workouts in a row. I have Parkinson’s msa(6 th yr) and I’m grateful I can still exercise at all. It’s not easy typing this post

In terms of resistance training it’s a no brainer to do it at any age. The picture of me on my profile is me 3 years ago 6-1 200 3 years into disease although side effects still minimal. Now down to 170 with many issues. But my neuro cardio and other specialists are encouraging of me to workout. I like posting stuff like this to hear other opinions which is appreciated

That sounds like a very good workout and it’s making a difference for sure, so I admire you for that! Question. Can you post without typing by clicking a microphone button here like you can on the iPhone?

 

[Kitaman]

You guys are pumping me up to exercise more. I'm lovin this thread! In fact I'm getting exhausted just reading all of this.

I am going to start a long term regiment tomorrow.

 

[BGesus4]

If you do 10k steps and lift weights 3-5x a week you will get amazing results.

You’ll probably die in your thirties but it’ll be well worth it.

 

[HuskyHawk]

This is a mind-bendingly bad take. I don't care what you do in your personal life, but I hope no one who is reading this takes you at your word here. It's crazy that you continue to double and triple down on it.

At 58, I really need to get back to resistance training on a regular basis. It's absolutely critical. Lean muscle is a gift that keeps on giving.

I've upped my walking (always falls off in winter) but I am almost certain I need to incorporate a little running. According at Apple Health, based on my VO2, I may have died a few years ago and it's not sure I am still breathing at all. Always had trouble running even as a kid, but swimming was my key to cardio fitness along with racquetball and tennis. Now I don't do any of that. Sitting at a desk isn't great for health.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I just want (and need) to start stretching and increasing flexibility. At age 67, it’s worrying how stiff I feel- only exercise I really do now is walking carrying my clubs and doing nine holes of golf. Any good advice on basic stretching and calisthenics for an otherwise healthy not overweight 67 year old guy? Next year, my wife and I will go on a month-long hike in Spain (500 miles with backpack- the Santiago Camino), so I want to start getting in shape and maintaining thru winter

Go on YouTube and check on workouts from the guy at ManFlow Yoga. Hugely helpful for flexibility and basic strength. He has things tailored for men at various ages and levels and with goals like golf, spinal rotation, hips, etc.

 

[thekollieman]

I said that earlier but you and the rest of the idiots on this board chose to ignore that. I’m done here. You people are nuts.

“Resistance training is only good for you if you’re under 30, and really bad for you if you’re over 40, give or take.”

That was the first sentence of your first comment, which at face value is nonsensical. That’s why you’re getting piled on. If you had said “maxing out” or “lifting extremely heavy weights” in place of “resistance training” there, I guarantee you wouldn’t have been dog piled and wouldn’t feel the need to call me and everyone else idiots for pointing out the obvious.