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UCONNfan1 said:
It will be interesting to see how this plays out...

Here's a thought - Calhoun goes after the job. Once he gets it, he convinces the BCU administration to forgive and forget UCONN suing them and we end up with an invite to the ACC.

However, we are so much in demand that we also get a B1G invite, which we accept and Calhoun promptly quits...
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Another thing Calhoun can do up there is insist BC that pushes all big men (toughened up by Calhoun over 3 years) into a 3 year graduation program, and then the best of them promptly do a grad year at UConn for their 4th season.
 
Tom Moore would never be mentioned for various reasons, but he's the type of guy they need.
 
It would be great if BC simply interviewed Jim Calhoun. We could wonder if he'd use the opportunity to unearth the secret "let's destroy UConn's chances at the ACC" files and bring down their entire athletic department.

In reality the interview would be a nice bridge building apology by BC and Calhoun could give them a lot of good ideas of what to look for in 'empire building'. Then machine guns pop out of Calhoun's trunk and he dives atop Hanlan so that he can transfer to UConn.

Sorry just can't take this seriously.
 
Dogdeacon said:
It would be great if BC simply interviewed Jim Calhoun. We could wonder if he'd use the opportunity to unearth the secret "let's destroy UConn's chances at the ACC" files and bring down their entire athletic department.

In reality the interview would be a nice bridge building apology by BC and Calhoun could give them a lot of good ideas of what to look for in 'empire building'. Then machine guns pop out of Calhoun's trunk and he dives atop Hanlan so that he can transfer to UConn.

Sorry just can't take this seriously.
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It cannot possibly be taken seriously. IMO, there is a 0% chance that either JC or BC have any desire whatsoever to even speak to one another.
 
nadav said:
Tom Moore would never be mentioned for various reasons, but he's the type of guy they need.
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Is Quinnipiac to BC a lateral move? I think it is.
 
Steve Pikiell and the Albany coach would likely get some consideration for the NC job.
 
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BC1978 said:
Husky, here is SD's body of work at BC:

2010-11: Overall: 21-13 (incl. 1-1 NIT) ACC: 10-8 (With Al Skinner's players)
2011-12: Overall: 9-12. ACC: 4-13.
2012-13: Overall: 16-17. ACC 8-12.
2013-14: Overall 8-24. ACC 4-13.

Other than the first year with Al Skinner's players, this is not a good record. Add in the many embarrassing losses (Bryant, College of Charleston, BU, etc), not sure how anyone can argue that he deserved another year.

It just didn't work out. The record is pretty telling. What other schools would tolerate that kind of performance?
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Other than Jackson, Skinner didn't exactly stock the cupboard with younger talent either. Donahue was basically starting the program anew, but expectations were to not only to upset Syracuse once a decade, but play with Duke, UNC, and Virginia, while beating FSU, WFU, Clemson, etc. The expectations for BC far out distance their reality. Now the next coach is faced with the same thing.

7 players in the same class does not help matters for a new coach either. After the Juniors graduate (after next season), BC needs to bring in some JuCo transfers merely to spread out the scholarships (Does BC even accept JuCo x-fers). If they can play, that's a bonus. Remember all those horrendous Clipper teams of the 80's and 90's? That is BC right now, but worse. It's great that BC's 3 star recruits play with each other for 4 years, but there is no one older who has experienced winning to show them the ropes.

Ironically, I think BC Basketball and UConn football are in similar positions, except that I also think Coach Diaco is the right coach and he has talent with which to work. I'm not as optimistic about BC on either front.
 
Husky25 said:
Ironically, I think BC Basketball and UConn football are in similar positions, except that I also think Coach Diaco is the right coach and he has talent with which to work. I'm not as optimistic about BC on either front.
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With all due respect, Husky, you are wrong about BC FB. You just are.

Bates' hiring of Steve Addazio has been a grand-slam hire for BC.

It's not just because he took a 2-win team to 7 wins the next season, with the same players as his predecessor. It's not just because he has proven to be a great recruiter (taking BC recruiting from #88 to #41 in a single year based on RIVALS, following a 2-win season). It's not because he took a program that was no longer landing any of the top local recruits to one that is landing most of them. It's not because he took an unknown running back and transformed him to the point where he was standing on the Heisman Finalist stage in NYC. All those things are great. What makes him special, however, is how he has completely transformed the culture of BC FB. He has given them an identity. He has given them an edge. He relentlessly reinforces this message everywhere. In one year, he has been on more Boston sports talk radio, ESPN, etc. then all prior BC coaches combined. He has mined social media / youtube, etc. The "be a dude" campaign was brilliant. He has taken that slogan to social media to define what it takes to be a BC athlete:



Those of us who have met him will tell you we have not seen anything like this since Tom Coughlin. When his appointment was announced, it was mocked in many quarters - including some at BC. No one is mocking it now!

If Bates can replicate this formula with the hiring of a MBB coach - someone with the same energy, skill, recruiting, and marketing savvy as Steve Addazio - then the longer-term BC MBB prospects will be bright (regardless of the initial reaction or "splash"that person receives). We shall see how this plays out.
 
I never said anything about BC football. The phrase, "either front" refers to a good fit for basketball coach and basketball talent at BC.
 
Husky25 said:
I never said anything about BC football. The phrase, "either front" refers to a good fit for basketball coach and basketball talent at BC.
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Oh well, if I misunderstood your point, my bad. But I do think my last paragraph holds true. The trick will be in repeating the Addazio success. Not necessarily an easy thing to do, I admit.
 
Honestly, once I noticed you started writing about football, I stopped reading...

I don't necessarily disagree, but remember that Addazzio got to a bowl game with Spaziani's players (just as Donahue got 21 wins with someone else's players). It's how they build on that success that counts.

BC Basketball is a broken brand with more obstacles than other programs on their road to redemption as it were.
 
Husky25 said:
Honestly, once I noticed you started writing about football, I stopped reading...

I don't necessarily disagree, but remember that Addazzio got to a bowl game with Spaziani's players (just as Donahue got 21 wins with someone else's players). It's how they build on that success that counts.

BC Basketball is a broken brand with more obstacles than other programs on their road to redemption as it were.
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Husky, you raise excellent points and it is hard to disagree with you. The only counter I have is that while it is true that Addazio got to a bowl game with Spaz's player's (something Spaz could not do!), he has proven to be an excellent recruiter and there is little doubt that the talent on BC' s future FB teams will be substantially higher than the Spaz teams. SD, on the other hand, was never able to replace the talent of the departing players from the Skinner years, which ultimately cost him his job. In the three years with his own players, there was virtually no improvement. (Some point to a slight improvement last year but, in truth, that was the result of an end-of-season spurt. For the majority of last season, it was every bit as bad (if not worse - the Bryant loss, etc.) as this one.

If BC can get a MBB coach who can coach, recruit, and market like Addazio, then I think BC MBB will recover and be fine. A big if, I agree.
 
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Husky25 said:
Skinner had a hand in that though. As I pointed out before, he did not sign a first year player before his final year. This forced Donahue to over recruit in 2011. Calipari can coach a team of all the same class to the National Championship, but there are two differences. Kentucky attracts the best talent in the country and based on prior results, that NC is expected to be rescinded in 3 years.
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Point take re: Skinner. It did make SD's job harder. That said, I think most would agree that SD's recruiting efforts were largely ineffective, which sealed his fate at BC.
 
Whoever goes there will not win. That school is cursed. Anyone associated with them will be doomed.
 
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