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Was watching the bulls and bobcats out here in Chicago last night. I really think there are just too many teams out there because the product on the floor in Charlotte is just awful. They didn't even look like they were trying out there and the crowd was dead silent. They have something like 4 wins this year. Then you have teams like Detroit, new Orleans, Minnesota, sacramento, etc. Too many teams I feel...take what talent these teams have and distribute them to the top teams and you have a great product.:.or move one of them to hartford
 
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I couldn't disagree more. The bobcats are having a down few years, it happens with many franchises. Aka detroit lions. Things will work themselves our for the most part in professional sports.
 

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Was watching the bulls and bobcats out here in Chicago last night. I really think there are just too many teams out there because the product on the floor in Charlotte is just awful. They didn't even look like they were trying out there and the crowd was dead silent. They have something like 4 wins this year. Then you have teams like Detroit, new Orleans, Minnesota, sacramento, etc. Too many teams I feel...take what talent these teams have and distribute them to the top teams and you have a great product.:.or move one of them to hartford
. In a word, yes.
 
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The NBA is not going to contract. They'll move a franchise to Mexico City before they contract.
 
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Was watching the bulls and bobcats out here in Chicago last night. I really think there are just too many teams out there because the product on the floor in Charlotte is just awful. They didn't even look like they were trying out there and the crowd was dead silent. They have something like 4 wins this year. Then you have teams like Detroit, new Orleans, Minnesota, sacramento, etc. Too many teams I feel...take what talent these teams have and distribute them to the top teams and you have a great product.:.or move one of them to hartford

Absolutely! This is nothing new. The weak teams have just become weaker.
 

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Was watching the bulls and bobcats out here in Chicago last night. I really think there are just too many teams out there because the product on the floor in Charlotte is just awful. They didn't even look like they were trying out there and the crowd was dead silent. They have something like 4 wins this year. Then you have teams like Detroit, new Orleans, Minnesota, sacramento, etc. Too many teams I feel...take what talent these teams have and distribute them to the top teams and you have a great product.:.or move one of them to hartford

In the same post about having too many NBA teams, specifically ones that suck and have no crowd support, you suggest moving a franchise to Hartford?

Hartford and CT barely show up to support the defending National Champion UConn Huskies. Not only that but it's located in the middle of Celtic and Knick country.
 

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Rosters should be cut to 8 active players and the number of teams to 24. 192 players instead of 420.

That would leave enough talent and markets for a new ABA style league that assumes the role of D-League and structured like Triple AAA baseball. Teams with a weak Triple AAA club and only 8 active players would crap out.

The Hartford Celtics.
 
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Yes. They really should get rid of about six of the franchises. This will never happen but some of the teams are pretty bad.
 
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This happens in every sport. Yes there always is a handful of teams that aren't very good, but that is the nature of the game. The products MOST of these teams put on the floor is phenomenal. While the style of basketball they play is a little different from what I appreciate, I can almost find someone/something to enjoy about any given team. Overall I'm pretty impressed by the NBAN talent. More teams would concentrate this .
 
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This happens in every sport. Yes there always is a handful of teams that aren't very good, but that is the nature of the game. The products MOST of these teams put on the floor is phenomenal. While the style of basketball they play is a little different from what I appreciate, I can almost find someone/something to enjoy about any given team. Overall I'm pretty impressed by the NBAN talent. More teams would concentrate this .

It's awfully difficult to find anything positive about the product the Bobcats put on the floor. Actually, it's kinda pitiful.
 
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It's awfully difficult to find anything positive about the product the Bobcats put on the floor. Actually, it's kinda pitiful.
You're right, it is bad, but that's why I said MOST teams put a quality product on the court and i really enjoy the smaller market teams putting solid teams together. That is exciting to me. Like I said this wouldnt happen with a handful of teams clipped.
 

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The NBA's problem is that their CBA has allowed the players to select where they want to play pretty easily and there are only a handful of attractive landing spots for players. There are a dozen unattractive places where no one wants to play and they will forever be chasing the handful of markets where the players want to congregate. You can catch lightning in a bottle the way say Oklahoma City has, but generally if you are in a city like Milwaukee or Minneapolis or Charlotte you are going to be chasing the LAs and Miamis of the world. The salary cap/maximums also gives a pretty nice advantage to Florida and Texas due to their lack of a state income tax.
 
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The NBA's problem is that their CBA has allowed the players to select where they want to play pretty easily and there are only a handful of attractive landing spots for players. There are a dozen unattractive places where no one wants to play and they will forever be chasing the handful of markets where the players want to congregate. You can catch lightning in a bottle the way say Oklahoma City has, but generally if you are in a city like Milwaukee or Minneapolis or Charlotte you are going to be chasing the LAs and Miamis of the world. The salary cap/maximums also gives a pretty nice advantage to Florida and Texas due to their lack of a state income tax.


They need a Billy Beane for the NBA...that'd make a great movie
 

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They need a Billy Beane for the NBA...that'd make a great movie

I'm not a big NBA guy, but wasn't Morley in Houston big into stats before anyone else.
 
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Was watching the bulls and bobcats out here in Chicago last night. I really think there are just too many teams out there because the product on the floor in Charlotte is just awful. They didn't even look like they were trying out there and the crowd was dead silent. They have something like 4 wins this year. Then you have teams like Detroit, new Orleans, Minnesota, sacramento, etc. Too many teams I feel...take what talent these teams have and distribute them to the top teams and you have a great product.:.or move one of them to hartford

There's too many NBA's......................
 
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In the same post about having too many NBA teams, specifically ones that suck and have no crowd support, you suggest moving a franchise to Hartford?

Hartford and CT barely show up to support the defending National Champion UConn Huskies. Not only that but it's located in the middle of Celtic and Knick country.


Obviously being sarcastic about Hartford but thanks for your input. We have the CT sun anyway.
 
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I don't think there are too many teams, I think there are too many Michael Jordan's as presidents of teams in the NBA. Save the teams, dump the Jordan's.
 
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All I can say is that a player has a better chance at playing in the NBA now than they did 30-40 years ago. And get paid more for it (which is reason for expansion-more money). Also back then you practically knew the starting 5 of most teams, now with so many foreign players and marginally talented players in the league teams have come down to 1-2 'NBA' talented players. When a team gets 3 players they become newsworthy (Celtics, Heat, etc...). Lastly some teams had 4 or even 5 talented players on one team, you will never see that again.
 
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I don't think there are too many teams, I think there are too many Michael Jordan's as presidents of teams in the NBA. Save the teams, dump the Jordan's.
Unfortunately, Jordan's athletic skills aren't an asset in the front office. He's simply not a very good judge of talent, going back to Washington. And to compound that, it doesn't appear that he cares to put much time in at the job, preferring the golf course or casino.
 
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Yes, I think the NBA would be best served to contract two teams. I have kept close tabs on Charlotte this season because of Kemba, and they are really, really sad. Watching Charlote play is honestly like watching Eastern Tennessee State play Kentucky. You're not going to win many games with Reggie Williams, Corey Higgins, Bismack Biyambo, Derrick Brown, and Byron Mullins playing big minutes. These guys are not NBA players, plain and simple.

It's going to be hard to convince fans to come to the arena and watch scrubs like these play. That doesn't even include guys like Tyrus Thomas who make a career because of their potential, even though it's clear they have no intention of impoving. It doesn't include guys like Corey Maggete, who float through games with the intensity of a baloon bristing through a park. And it doesn't include fat asses like Boris Diaw and Disianga Diop who couldn't bother to get into shape this off-season.

The Bobcats are a team that has lost 19 out of their last 20, and 14 in a row. Their last six losses have been by a margin of 33, 44, 6, 10, 29, and 25.

To be fair, they've had a ton of injuries this season. But still, an NBA team should not be THIS bad. I think eliminating two teams would be a big step towards eliminating some of this incompetence among teams.
 
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All I can say is that a player has a better chance at playing in the NBA now than they did 30-40 years ago. And get paid more for it (which is reason for expansion-more money). Also back then you practically knew the starting 5 of most teams, now with so many foreign players and marginally talented players in the league teams have come down to 1-2 'NBA' talented players. When a team gets 3 players they become newsworthy (Celtics, Heat, etc...). Lastly some teams had 4 or even 5 talented players on one team, you will never see that again.
Not true. Basketball has continue to rise in popularity both nationally and, more important, internationally. There are more playings playing. While there are 6 extra teams are so, the much larger pool means that it's just that much more difficult to find yourself in the NBA.

What is true, though, is that it's much easier to play professional ball somewhere and make a good amount of money. The euroleagues have gotten pretty good (especially Spain), and countries like Israel and Russia have very good leagues. As opposed to 30-40 years ago, you have a better chance to make a lot of money playing pro ball--just a worse chance to do that in the NBA.

The Bobcats are awful, but they don't need to contract teams. They're just poorly run. There is more talent in the league now than there has been in a while.
 
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All I can say is that a player has a better chance at playing in the NBA now than they did 30-40 years ago. And get paid more for it (which is reason for expansion-more money). Also back then you practically knew the starting 5 of most teams, now with so many foreign players and marginally talented players in the league teams have come down to 1-2 'NBA' talented players. When a team gets 3 players they become newsworthy (Celtics, Heat, etc...). Lastly some teams had 4 or even 5 talented players on one team, you will never see that again.

30-40 years ago there were like 10 rounds in the nba draft
 
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I used to have a similar argument to the NHL - the moment they started putting hockey teams in Tennessee and Arizona, they started losing integrity and diluted their product. Some cities just aren't meant to have certain pro-sports franchises - I mean, Oklahoma City? Sacramento? Charlotte? Expansion only makes sense when there is an identity behind the residence.
 
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