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I'm an old fart so most of these were either Wide World of Sports or early HBO:

1. Ali (Boxing's Michael Jordan)
2. Roberto Duran (smaller Mike Tyson)
3. Alexis Arguello (so Masterful)
4. Thomas Hearns (fought Leonard too early)
5. Pernell Whitaker (Crafty as they come)

Honorable mention: Shoutout to Hector Comacho (flashy as hell, but backed it up)

Who you got?
 
Watched Sugar ray with my dad who introduced me to boxing. But as I got older I watched Tyson and Mayweather the most. I didn’t follow everyone until about late 90’s or so. Since then I’ve followed closely and it’s been the usual suspects. Mostly Mayweather because he was one those once in a generation talents. He did get boring to most as he got older, but if you watched him when he was younger, WOW! I think most people who bashed his style never watched him throughout his career. He just adjusted as he got older like any great in any sport. He was an absolute alien of a talent in his younger years.
 
Favorites are mostly based on fighters who fought where I lived or had family live.

Roy Jones Jr- Lived in Gulf Coast of Florida. Also the best boxer I ever saw
Larry Holmes- Family from Eastern PA
Sweet Pea Whitaker- I lived in Va Beach
Marlon Starling- Hartford, duh
Marvin Hagler- Just liked his aggessiveness
 
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Sugar Ray Leonard
Mike Tyson
Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini
 
Butterbean
Good call. Definitely entertaining. Just saw him on a wrestling documentary about his involvement in, I think, 1 of the wrestlemanias. He legit boxed a wrestler and whooped on him.
 
My boxing fandom was in a relatively short burst:

Marlon Starling
Marvin Hagler
Aaron Pryor
Dwight Braxton/Muhammad Qawi
Alexis Arguello (before AP)

So, most of your boxing was watched on NBC Sportsworld. Aaron Pryor, Arguello, Starling and that whole bunch fought a ton on Saturday afternoons NBC coverage.
 
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So, most of your boxing was watched on NBC Sportsworld. Aaron Pryor, Arguello, Starling and that whole bunch fought a ton on Saturday afternoons NBC coverage.
If you asked me, I would have said "I don't think so". But there's the evidence!
But if irc, when Starling beat Breland, it was on ABC. But that fits because the pre-fight was just an extended Breland hype video.
 
You’re only allowed three great women in your lifetime
They come along like the great fighters, once every ten years
Rocky Marciano, Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Lewis
Sometimes you get ‘em all at once
Me? I had my three when I was sixteen
That happens, what are you gonna do?
Maybe she’s your first great one
Thanks a lot, Sonny
I think I’m gonna go for one
 
Going up in weight towards the end of his career kinda hurt his reputation if you weren't familiar with him


He could have fought cruiser and heavy weight in his late 20's and early 30's. Trying to fight 225 lbs guys in your late 30's is rarely a recipe for success. Super middleweight and light heavy weight was his sweet spot for speed and power.

Really by the time he fought Antonio Tarver the first time he was already 34 and had started to decline. By the third Tarver fight he was way past prime and riding steady in the over the hill lane.
 
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What about Rocky Marciano?
My question was who you watched, perhaps I should have clarified on TV or in person (live). Not sure of your age though, but I 'heard' he was one of the greats. I did watch Ali, when they started publicly televising his fights. His first Frazier fight was a PPV type fight I believe, so my brother and I heard the fight on the radio.
 
1). Haynes Boxer Briefs. Nothing is even close.

This pandemic has done wonders for extending the lifespan of my underwear drawer. Going commando at least five days a week. I basically use the days I wear underwear and the one day a week I've been shaving to figure out days of the week.
 
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growing up in a boxing culture family, man I got stories. as a kid, I was taught to box, cuz dad was taught to box, cuz grandad was taught to box, cuz great grandad was taught to box... the hooks go back to ww1, at least. I was never 'technically educated' (didn't care much about that)to form a legit opinion on who is better - I just liked certain personalities and styles. a couple/tree boxing stories. first, the manassa mauler. in the 1930s, two kids get on a train in Bridgeport, meeting for the first time, to go to school in Chicago. one is George Gunther, who subsequently became the longest serving legislator in the history of Connecticut, and one of us. instant best pals for life. they get a job in a hydrotherapy, 'shvitz bath' kinda place. 1930s Chicago, Capone, the whole scene. one day, some suits drag a wasted guy into the spa. they say 'youse gotta fix him up. he has a dinner tonite and can't even talk now.' the two run him thru a series of showers, steam, massage, etc. Dempsey comes back to life. on the way out he says thanks, then gives each of them a gold $20 coin (like a bazillion dollars at that time). next? ali. hearing the story a million times about how they sat around the radio listening to cassius clock liston in maine, I was tuned into muhammed. spring 1991, we go to AC to see foreman v holyfield, the one where some knuckleheads threw firecrackers during the fight. fights over, the crowd slowly rolls out of the arena, people standing around talking. cuz says 'hold up, there's ali! I gotta go meet him.' freaking scene outta a movie. cuz walks up a grand flight of stairs with muhammed at the top. we're watching. he shakes his hand, says a word or two, and comes back down. were all excited 'what's he like? what's he like?' cuz says 'he's gone. ain't nothing there. fried green tomatos.' sad. great dude. iron mike, late 90s, I think. we've been AC people also since ww1. staying at the Claridge (the "Connecticut casino') I was allowed to bring a friend along for that trip. we go out for a stroll, and end up at Caesars. walking into the newpaper/notions store, my bud gets excited, and whispers 'there Tyson!' by himself, and just buying some stuff, I fly up on him to say hi (I always liked that guy, he really knew how to clock his opponent), and reach out to shake his hand. now mr Tyson is not tall, and seeing him one could wonder 'how is this guy so tough?' the way my bud tells the tale, my face turned color. standing a good half foot taller than him, my hand disappeared in his. whoa. 'sir, yes. sir! nice to meet you!' lol. having seen almost none of the big names fight, except for that holyfield/foreman one, I can't really say who is better, but as far as the 'show,' I always liked the power of foreman and tyson, the skill of louis and dempsey, and all things ali. I hear that holmes was a moose, too. what's a 'bayone bleeder?' lol. the folks lived a life where that 'golden gloves' thing in ny was something like religion. I only got to watch bowery boys movies to get a taste.
 
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The robbery of Roy Jones Jr. in the Olympics was one of the most egregious decisions I've ever witnessed. Soured me totally on Olympic boxing. He was the best boxer I've seen since the younger Ali. Not the most power, not the most devastating puncher. Just the best.

Roy Jones Jr.
Muhammed Ali
Thomas Hearns
Evander Holyfield
Leonard - Duran - Hagler - Whittaker - Tyson --- dealer's choice
 
1. Haines boxer briefs - Nothing fancy here, but like the combination of the longer legs plus the support and comfort of a brief makes this an easy choice for number 1. This is my go to boxer.

2. Land's End Broadcloth Boxer - a more traditional boxer, still comfortable but the lack of support drops them to number 2. I tend to go to these for more formal occasions. I have no idea why.

.... or were you talking about something else...

Rocky Marciano - Retired the undefeated champ. His professional record is 49 - 0 and of those 49 wins 43 were by knockout. In my opinion he is greatest of all time, but he is typically ranked in the top 5. If you have some time watch some of his fights. He was an incredibly powerful and durable fighter, notwithstanding the fact that he had the shortest reach of any champion. Watch the devastating shot the jaw he throws to take the title against Jersey Joe Walcott. Here's the set up. Walcott described Marciano as a puncher not a boxer before the fight and said he would not have much trouble with him. Walcott backed that up in the first round when knocked Marciano to the canvas. Late in the fight and well ahead on points Walcott had given up trying to knock the smaller Marciano out and was just staying away from him.


Walcott is out before he hits the ground. Just a devastating shot and one of many. Even Ali said he wasn't sure if he could have beaten him

Joe Frasier - You can argue that Ali won 1 more head to head, but I was rooting for Frasier at the time. I wasn't a fan of Ali's braggadocio, although I've come to appreciate it. Frasier was another powerful puncher with a reach disadvantage. Marciano used a unique shuffling/lunging style that both protected him and gave him his enormous power, Frasier just plodded forward into his opponent's punches absorbing multiple shots to give one back. He should have been a easy mark for the faster and smarter (in a boxing IQ sense) Ali. Yet their fights against each other are probably the best of all time. Well worth finding and watching. The damage they did to each other is stunning, almost Rocky movie-like. Neither were quite the same afterwards.

Muhammad Ali - He was a brilliant fighter. Although he is mostly remembered for his footwork and lightening like jab ("float like a butterfly, sting like a bee") he could land incredible shots. He just picked his moments to release them. As noted above, the Ali/Frasier super fights are probably the best matches of all time. Ali took an incredible beating in them and still had the courage to hang in there and punish Frasier. Ali probably threw 3 punches to every one of Frasier's. He could consistently reinvent himself because of his incredible speed and agility and intelligence. He's definitely one of the greatest of all time.

Sugar Ray Leonard - I prefer heavyweights but Leonard should be on everyone's list. He fought in 5 weight classes and won championships in the 3 and two Olympic golds. He is the epitome of a boxer, slipping punches and counter punching. A real pleasure to watch. He beat the best of the his time including Benitez and Duran. He lost to Duran in the first fight by decision. The rematch was the famous "no mas" fight. Making your opponent and rival quit is something out of a movie. Another very intelligent boxer.

Ray Boom Boom Mancini - Mancini was a lightweight who had caught the public's eye. His lighting quick combinations made him a very tough figher. He probably is best known for his fight against a Korean fighter Duk Koo Kim which ended in a TKO with Kim falling in a coma immediately after the fight and dying a few days later. Mancini was never the same after that. It reminds me a bit of the John Wayne movie The Quiet Man. I always felt for the guy.

Tie Ernie Shavers/George Foreman - I like these guys but not for their boxing necessarily. Foreman was a bully as a fighter when he was young. He won a gold medal and was a part of what I consider the golden years of boxing. He was a straight ahead powerful fighter who had won a gold medal. He took the title from Frazier, his size and reach being too much for Frazier to overcome. Ali ended up punking him in the Thrilla in Manila, using his "rope-a-dope" technique to save energy and cause Foreman to punch himself out. But his comeback years after retirement to take the championship was surprising and entertaining. His personality is hysterical so it earns a place on my list.

Shavers was a tough straight ahead fighter as well. He earns a spot because he was the original guy slated for the Mr. T role in Rocky III. Shavers tells the story of how Stallone wanted Shavers to throw a full power punch at him because he felt like all his training had made him fit enough to take it. Shavers kept refusing but finally threw a mid speed punch to Stallone's mid-section. Stallone went down like a ton a bricks and actually started crying. He said he never felt anything like it. It cost Shavers the role but earned him a piece of my number 5 spot.
 
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Arturo Gatti... 1-5. There isn't a fighter in the world I would want to watch fight more than Gatti.

Gatti was absolutely electrifying to the point you could get your target heart rate as a viewer after the first twenty seconds of the first round 90% of the time. You were on the edge-of-the-seat an hour before the fight started. In my opinion one of the most exhilarating boxers of all time.

 
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