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OT: 2017-2018 NBA Season Thread
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[QUOTE="tzznandrew, post: 2401597, member: 168"] The stats I quoted were pace adjusted (PER, WS/48, VORP, +/-). As for the playoffs thing... I mean, sure...Jordan took a team from the third pick to the 7th seed in his first year. Did LeBron make the playoffs his first year? (No.) His second year? (No.) More teams made it, as a percentage in Jordan's year, so his team was bad and in the playoffs against a 59 team in year 1, and an all-time great Celtics team in year 2 (Jordan broke his leg that season and didn't play much...might have gotten a better matchup if he were healthy all year, right?). Year 3? Celtics again. But again, the East was actually good then, so he's getting tough matchups. I find the fact that it took MJ three years to win a playoff series sort of silly (I'm sure you do to). You're also discounting handchecks. That's a major trade off: LeBron now gets crazy freedom of movement. A man-to-man only league helps LeBron in some ways, but it hurts him in others. The physical play Jordan had to endure in the 80s and 90s is of a different animal. [/QUOTE]
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