Oregon in Big XIi
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If only there were 9 other threads to insert a random thought based on conjecture.
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That’s not real. They have like 500 followers
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Didn't know Oregon use to be in the B12. Who wrote this Dana O'Neil?
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Oregon and Washington are very interesting cases. All the so-called experts out there say the B1G can't really expand anymore because the networks don't have enough money to pay those extra teams. This is somewhat supported by the fact the Pac 12 (9) can't even get a semi-decent deal. Does Fox/NBC/CBS want to pay out another 130MM annually for two teams when they could basically get the whole PAC for a little more than that? No way.
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Yeah but, as someone said earlier in maybe one of other 30 threads, the value isn’t in Washington playing Stanford or Oregon playing Cal.
It’s Washington playing against Michigan or Oregon playing Ohio State. That’s the uptick.
It’s not the school in a vacuum.
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Absolutely. It gets B1G alumni on the west coast more games to see, it gets B1G colleges more exposure and recruiting, it gets TV providers more games that tip off at different times. Most people in Ohio or Michigan aren't staying up to watch Pac12 games...but if they're playing their team, a rival, or any game that impacts the standings? You're going to get increased viewership.
West coast teams do just fine professionally because they play teams from all over and there's buy-in. But if they only played each other, you lose the interest and the eyeballs from the rest of the country.
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The nuance to this situation is that the B12 Grant of Rights only runs through 2031. And the B1G isn't likely to expand again until they can raid the ACC, whose GOR doesn't expire until 2035.
So what Oregon and Washington are likely debating now is weather it is better to linger in the leftover Pac12 for 10 years getting less money and falling behind everyone else, or go to the B12 as a stop gap until the B1G finally expands when the ACC disbands in 2035. The risk in that play would be if some of the ACC schools finally challenge the GOR in court and the B1G expands before 2031...but that is probably low risk because if the ACC schools find a way out of the ACC GOR, then Washington and Oregon can use that same legal framework to get out of the B12 GOR.
This is likely the debate going on as we speak at Oregon and Washington (and potentially Cal and Stanford too).
At least 2 of the 4 of Washington, Oregon, Standford and Cal will find their way to the B1G eventually. Maybe all 4. Washington checks off all the boxes for what the B1G would want athletically and academically. The other 3 have at least one con. Oregon has the best brand of the 4 and I believe the 7th largest fan base in the nation. USC and UCLA will need at least 2 travel partners. All the reasons the B1G would want at least 2 more western teams have been posted multiple times, so I won't hash them all out again. Here is one reason I think at least 2 more western teams will join the B1G that hasn't been talked about as much......
If the B1G and SEC continue expanding to 20-24 teams, it isn't realistic to think that a 48 team Power 2 will only include 2 teams west of Lincoln, Norman and Austin.
If the B1G and SEC continue expanding to 20-24 teams, it isn't realistic to think that a 48 team Power 2 will only include 2 teams west of Lincoln, Norman and Austin.
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