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superjohn said:
Because it's an online/commuter school people don't care about.
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I live about an hour from Florida and USF, an hour and a half from UCF. Going into popular local bars, the most chatter is about Florida, then USF a distant second, and never anything about UCF. Same for news on TV. Actually, I was surprised the low level of interest overall in college sports here. Only time there is buzz in the bars is when the Bucs had Brady or in snowbird season with noise for B1G schools.

When I lived in southern New Hampshire and Vermont people were much more into regional college sports. Not much football content but UNH got a lot of airplay. College hoops and hockey got a lot as well. UCONN got s a lot of attention. Very knowledgeable fan bases.

It’s hard to imagine how these payouts can be sustained without the media outlets struggling financially. Especially with the ever changing distribution technology.

On the other hand, it’s not like these amounts are that huge. Think some individual player contracts in the pros. Heck, weren’t the cast of Friends each making $1m an episode back in the 90’s?
 
Now here you go again, you say you want your freedom
Well, who am I to keep you down?
It's only right that you should play the way you feel it
But listen carefully to the sound of your loneliness

Like a heartbeat, drives you mad
In the stillness of remembering what you had
And what you lost
And what you had
Ooh, what you lost

Here I am this morning, playing Stevie Nicks and contemplating long decades of loving college football. Things change, I know, but I will mourn the traditional conferences....teams must do what they need to do, conferencee loyalties were yesterday.

Whatever is going to happen, just get it done. I guess I can understand the desperation of doing something, anything, rather die a slow death of 1,000 cuts. But it is sad for the football that we have known,
 
billybud said:
Now here you go again, you say you want your freedom
Well, who am I to keep you down?
It's only right that you should play the way you feel it
But listen carefully to the sound of your loneliness

Like a heartbeat, drives you mad
In the stillness of remembering what you had
And what you lost
And what you had
Ooh, what you lost

Here I am this morning, playing Stevie Nicks and contemplating long decades of loving college football. Things change, I know, but I will mourn the traditional conferences....teams must do what they need to do, conferencee loyalties were yesterday.

Whatever is going to happen, just get it done. I guess I can understand the desperation of doing something, anything, rather die a slow death of 1,000 cuts. But it is sad for the football that we have known,
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I woke up this morning as bummed as you seemed to me about college football. I really enjoyed college football and respected the rivalries. I loved the old Nebraska - Oklahoma games. I remember watching UCLA and USC around Thanksgiving in their bright uniforms when winter had started to creep into CT. But those days are gone. Geography no longer matters. As Paul Finebaum said on the Dan Patrick show yesterday, "fans still follow tradition even though college football no longer honors tradition."

I find the statements that Oregon and Washington will receive full shares from the Big 10 in the next TV deal funny. How can you trust any statement like that?

Larry Scott must be the most inept commissioner ever. At one time they had the chance to have Texas join the Pac12 which could have avoided much of this.
 
Khal Drogo said:
ACC should have grabbed all the BE football schools when they had the chance
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Actually the Big East football at the time should have split from the basketball schools and invited FSU, Clemson, Virginia, Georgia Tech, and Maryland.
At the time the North Carolina schoo s were noting in football.
That would have been a great league.
Miami, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, West Virginia, Pittsburgh were all very good in the 90's.
 
This move cuts down on travel significantly.

Even sports with 20 game conference schedules….Men’s Basketball, Women’s Basketball, Volleyball, etc. Look at how that breaks down:

USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington all play each other twice - home and away. That is 6 games for each school.

The other 14 games would be played against the 14 schools in the Eastern/Central Time Zones. 7 of the 14 are home games only and the other 7 away games only.

For the 7 away games, you can do some doubling up. Fly to Chicago and play road games against both Northwestern and Illinois. Fly to Michigan and play road games against both Michigan and Michigan State, etc.

You are only looking at a few long trips, and most schools do this now anyways in the non conference schedules. USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington could stick to playing western schools in the non-conference part of the season.
 
Rufus said:
This move cuts down on travel significantly.

Even sports with 20 game conference schedules….Men’s Basketball, Women’s Basketball, Volleyball, etc. Look at how that breaks down:

USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington all play each other twice - home and away. That is 6 games for each school.

The other 14 games would be played against the 14 schools in the Eastern/Central Time Zones. 7 of the 14 are home games only and the other 7 away games only.

For the 7 away games, you can do some doubling up. Fly to Chicago and play road games against both Northwestern and Illinois. Fly to Michigan and play road games against both Michigan and Michigan State, etc.

You are only looking at a few long trips, and most schools do this now anyways in the non conference schedules. USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington could stick to playing western schools in the non-conference part of the season.
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True and I think this is why it makes sense for the B1G to do a pods for all sports except football and sports where there are not many teams (hockey). It cuts down in travel expenses and time away from class for the ‘student’ athletes while drawing on local, traditional rivalries. Penn State/Rutgers/Maryland, Ohio St/Michigan/Purdue/Indiana/Illinois, Illinois/Northwestern/Wisconsin/Iowa, Wisconsin/Minnesota/Iowa, and Nebraska/Iowa are all within a 5 hours’ drive of each other. Nebraska is the only current school that does not have more than 1 B1G conference partner within 5 hours. In the new pacific wing, UCLA and USC are neighbors while UW and UO are about 4.5 hours apart, but they are used to that .
 
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Rufus said:
Oregon needs to increase their research spending fast. Last place by A LOT. They could increase five fold and still be low for the B1G.
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Why? They are in the Big10 and an AAU university. They are who they are and the Big10 admitted them into their club anyway. From reports, they were in discussions since last year so The Big10 hasn’t been worried for awhile now. Will they have opportunities to earn more research dollars in the Big10? Maybe, who knows?

The facts are the Big10 admitted them into the conference with the academic and athletic profile they currently are. If the Big10 had their boxers all twisted up over research dollars, then they would have invited Stanford instead. Maybe with the amount of research dollars UDub spends (1st in PAC and now 2nd in Big10), the Big10 thought that evened out OU.
 


About five minutes into the Podcast, they say Washington and Oregon either didn't attend the Friday morning PAC-12 meeting to discuss the Apple TV deal, or they did attend and just flat out told everyone they weren't signing.
 
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dayooper said:
Why? They are in the Big10 and an AAU university. They are who they are and the Big10 admitted them into their club anyway. From reports, they were in discussions since last year so The Big10 hasn’t been worried for awhile now. Will they have opportunities to earn more research dollars in the Big10? Maybe, who knows?

The facts are the Big10 admitted them into the conference with the academic and athletic profile they currently are. If the Big10 had their boxers all twisted up over research dollars, then they would have invited Stanford instead. Maybe with the amount of research dollars UDub spends (1st in PAC and now 2nd in Big10), the Big10 thought that evened out OU.
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It’s almost like (gasp) the B10 is an athletic league and has nothing to do with the research-side of the universities.
 
JeepCSC said:
It’s almost like (gasp) the B10 is an athletic league and has nothing to do with the research-side of the universities.
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I do believe there are schools that just don’t fit the Big10 because of academics. I also believe that the academic bar isn’t what we all think it is. I look at the AAU benchmark. That whole thing was pushed by The Dude of WV.
 
JeepCSC said:
So the Apple deal was only good for 2 years?
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It might have been 2 years long, but by the way every school with an option got the hell out, it was clear that it was anything but good. The dollars stunk but worse than that these schools would have been practically invisible to prospective recruits.
 
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AAU membership was never a requirement to join the B1G. It's certainly a plus. Fact: When Michigan State joined the B1G, they were NOT in the AAU. They didn't join for another 8 years.
 
Rufus said:
Oregon needs to increase their research spending fast. Last place by A LOT. They could increase five fold and still be low for the B1G.
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Part of Oregon’s challenge is that their med school, Oregon Health & Science University, is considered a separate intuition, like the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey before it was merged with Rutgers in 2013.
 
DarthGrumpy said:
Part of Oregon’s challenge is that their med school, Oregon Health & Science University, is considered a separate intuition, like the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey before it was merged with Rutgers in 2013.
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If that's the case, I expect a merger will happen in Oregon sooner rather than later.
 
Rufus said:
AAU membership was never a requirement to join the B1G. It's certainly a plus. Fact: When Michigan State joined the B1G, they were NOT in the AAU. They didn't join for another 8 years.
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Also it is clear that AAU membership is based on politics, not merit. How does ND merit AAU membership?
 
buddy said:
Also it is clear that AAU membership is based on politics, not merit. How does ND merit AAU membership?
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It's another good ol' boys club run by the same people that pull the strings in conference realignment.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
It's another good ol' boys club run by the same people that pull the strings in conference realignment.
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I’ve wondered that, too. It’s a good academic school, especially undergrad and law, with a rapid alumni network; but it lacks the big research side, such as a medical school, that most AAU schools have. Hence, you note may have a partial truth to it.
 
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DarthGrumpy said:
I’ve wondered that, too. It’s a good academic school, especially undergrad and law, with a rapid alumni network; but it lacks the big research side, such as a medical school, that most AAU schools have. Hence, you note may have a partial truth to it.
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I think there’s some truth to that as well. There are metrics that the AAU used, though. The big one is competitive grants. These are grants the research writes and submits. The grant providers award the research funds to those, based on how they say they would use the money to further the research the grant providers want. Could ND have high metrics there? I don’t know.
 
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