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[Cuango]

I, on the other hand, would be shocked if we did have three losses out of that schedule! South Carolina of course is going to be very tough, Notre Dame as well, but I think we at least split those two and as for anyone else, I just can’t really see anything to worry about! To each his own though. Hopefully, you’d rather me be right?

 

[cancontent]

It happened January third making her return likely somewhere between September and late December. So she will likely be available the majority of the season and potentially for all the tough OOC games.

Not sure why Caroline would be anymore TBD than any other injured UConn player tbh. Geno already said they would all return this season at some point, she was recently seen playing basketball on social media, is one of player featured on the OOC schedule graphic and recently gave an interview indicating her rehab is going well. At this point there isn't going to be anything more official from UConn because all indications are she will in fact be playing this season. I don't mean to be snippy but I find the speculation around Caroline to be over the top and crossing a line on this board at times. Yes the nature of her injury is different but unless there are real indications that the she is medically redshirting I think the assumption should be that she is playing out of respect for her.

But sure, if you take every player coming back from injury off the board, UConn is younger but I still don't think they would be a particularly young team with two 5th year seniors a junior and 3 very experienced sophomores. Chen learning a new system (though its very similar to the system she came from so not sure how much I buy that) but it doesn't make her any younger. It would have a significant depth problem.

In how I read your post, it sounded like they were factored to be playing from the start which isn't exactly accurate. With their injuries, I'm leery in putting any timelines in mind until the coaches say when they are truly expected to return.

With respect to Caroline's injury and how others feel about it, head injuries like hers are always going to be a sensitive topic. You believe she'll be ready to go sometime this year fine, but I can totally understand and empathize with others who are concerned.

From personal experience seeing both a family member and a close friend deal with severe concussions, those concerns are valid. For some, it affects their life long-term or even permanently as my friend is seeing now. Fully healthy 6 months ago and now on disability because of ongoing issues and it's unclear if it will ever get better. When you come across situations like those, it's hard not to fear for the worse because you're seeing it in real life.

 

[jdote33]

I, on the other hand, would be shocked if we did have three losses out of that schedule! South Carolina of course is going to be very tough, Notre Dame as well, but I think we at least split those two and as for anyone else, I just can’t really see anything to worry about! To each his own though. Hopefully, you’d rather me be right?

I'm a bit scarred from last season maybe. It would be great to have less than 3 losses which essentially would be a top 4, number 1 seed type team. I'm always pleased with the amount of test on the schedule. I appreciate Geno for always taking on challenges.

 

[GirlBoo1020]

In how I read your post, it sounded like they were factored to be playing from the start which isn't exactly accurate. With their injuries, I'm leery in putting any timelines in mind until the coaches say when they are truly expected to return.

With respect to Caroline's injury and how others feel about it, head injuries like hers are always going to be a sensitive topic. You believe she'll be ready to go sometime this year fine, but I can totally understand and empathize with others who are concerned.

From personal experience seeing both a family member and a close friend deal with severe concussions, those concerns are valid. For some, it affects their life long-term or even permanently as my friend is seeing now. Fully healthy 6 months ago and now on disability because of ongoing issues and it's unclear if it will ever get better. When you come across situations like those, it's hard not to fear for the worse because you're seeing it in real life.

I'm not saying concerns aren't valid. I'm not even say I don't share them. I am just saying given the coaches, programs and Carolines comments on that matter they are inappropriate at this point. If someone is saying they are planning and want people do indicate that as well, its not respectful to keep questioning that in my opinion.

Every time Caroline gets brought up there are 5-6 posts speculating whether she will or should ever play basketball again despite both her and her coach and the program saying they plan on having her available. You don't believe them? That is ok but at this point stay silent about it because its someone's health and wellbeing that you are speculating and I couldn't imagine the pain of reading those comments if I were her or her family. That is just my POV and why I spoke so strongly.

 

[cancontent]

I'm not saying concerns aren't valid. I'm not even say I don't share them. I am just saying given the coaches, programs and Carolines comments on that matter they are inappropriate at this point. If someone is saying they are planning and want people do indicate that as well, its not respectful to keep questioning that in my opinion.

Every time Caroline gets brought up there are 5-6 posts speculating whether she will or should ever play basketball again despite both her and her coach and the program saying they plan on having her available. You don't believe them? That is ok but at this point stay silent about it because its someone's health and wellbeing that you are speculating and I couldn't imagine the pain of reading those comments if I were her or her family. That is just my POV and why I spoke so strongly.

It's not a matter of not believing but a matter of being genuinely concerned as fans. A plan can be in place and all intentions are good and it still may not work out. Most fans here want the best for Caroline long term.

I also get the point about how a family may perceive the comments from fans, but I'd assume similar comments could be coming from their own family and friends. Compared to some of the stuff that has been posted on this board and on social media about NCAAW & WNBA players, these comments are of genuine concern and nothing else.

 

[Alydar]

It's not a matter of not believing but a matter of being genuinely concerned as fans. A plan can be in place and all intentions are good and it still may not work out. Most fans here want the best for Caroline long term.

I also get the point about how a family may perceive the comments from fans, but I'd assume similar comments could be coming from their own family and friends. Compared to some of the stuff that has been posted on this board and on social media about NCAAW & WNBA players, these comments are of genuine concern and nothing else.

When the same worries keep appearing over and over it's too much. They seem to be hinting that maybe they know more about her case than the physicians treating her with little more than anecdotal episodes in their lives as evidence.

I may think that a friend I haven't seen in 15 years has aged terribly, I don't tell them that.

 

[cancontent]

When the same worries keep appearing over and over it's too much. They seem to be hinting that maybe they know more about her case than the physicians treating her with little more than anecdotal episodes in their lives as evidence.

I may think that a friend I haven't seen in 15 years has aged terribly, I don't tell them that.

The same is said about the fears of injuries every season. It doesn't stop people from posting their thoughts and criticisms of the athletic trainer, FIBA tournaments, jinxes, etc.

As I stated earlier because of my situation, I'm more empathetic in this case. I don't consider what I've seen those close to me have gone and are going through as being anecdotal. When I see similar posts, I give them the benefit of the doubt because of it.

 

[GirlBoo1020]

It's not a matter of not believing but a matter of being genuinely concerned as fans. A plan can be in place and all intentions are good and it still may not work out. Most fans here want the best for Caroline long term.

I also get the point about how a family may perceive the comments from fans, but I'd assume similar comments could be coming from their own family and friends. Compared to some of the stuff that has been posted on this board and on social media about NCAAW & WNBA players, these comments are of genuine concern and nothing else.

It's one thing to to say "idk when Carol will be available". Its another thing to say "Who knows if Carol will ever play basketball again. My neighbor had a concussion with similar symptoms and had to retire from the sport completely just to be able to read with lights on again."
We are not her doctors. We are not her family and friends. Our intentions matter far less than the impact of our words. Just because the words are coming from a good place doesn't mean they are any less harmful. I am not a moderator of this board and the moderators here do a great job so I trust them to make the line, I am just giving an explanation of why I responded so harshly. Years of the same comments about Carol aren't productive imo especially when they ignore or contradict her words, Geno's words on the matter and/or the university's words on the matter. Just hurtful and unnecessary speculation at this point. She has said she is returning, Geno has said she is returning so we should take them at their word until the give us a different update.

When the same worries keep appearing over and over it's too much. They seem to be hinting that maybe they know more about her case than the physicians treating her with little more than anecdotal episodes in their lives as evidence.

I may think that a friend I haven't seen in 15 years has aged terribly, I don't tell them that.

Exactly!

 

[cancontent]

It's one thing to to say "idk when Carol will be available". Its another thing to say "Who knows if Carol will ever play basketball again. My neighbor had a concussion with similar symptoms and had to retire from the sport completely just to be able to read with lights on again."
We are not her doctors. We are not her family and friends. Our intentions matter far less than the impact of our words. Just because the words are coming from a good place doesn't mean they are any less harmful. I am not a moderator of this board and the moderators here do a great job so I trust them to make the line, I am just giving an explanation of why I responded so harshly. Years of the same comments about Carol aren't productive imo especially when they ignore or contradict her words, Geno's words on the matter and/or the university's words on the matter. Just hurtful and unnecessary speculation at this point. She has said she is returning, Geno has said she is returning so we should take them at their word until the give us a different update.

Exactly!

And I've given mine as to why I can empathize with why some posters have expressed their views as well. Majority of my comments about Caroline have been optimistic about her return so it's not like I've part of the doom and gloom mentality.

As I stated in my original reply, I won't consider Caroline, Aubrey, etc. as part of the rotation until the coaches confirm their actual date of return. That leaves the team with a shorter rotation to work with during the non-conference portion and short on playing experience at the NCAA D1 level which was your opinion on the situation.