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Message: [QUOTE="Jerry27, post: 2264588, member: 418"] Phil, you clearly didn't read what he wrote. He said NON-FSU who joined the ACC in 1991, before that maybe Clemson who was pretty consistant was their top team. They lost USCe to the SEC in the early 70's, picked up GT in the late 70's early 80's FSU in '91 and then they butchered the BE to get the rest of their quality teams minus ND who still isn't really in for football. Point is that the ACC was often the doormat of CFB until they kicked the door in and started to change their future. [/QUOTE]