Olympics- Simone Biles quits and Russians win gold

[iri10]

Gymnastics is a very individual sport. Even "team" gymnastics is this way, especially at the elite level. Regardless of what "team" you're on, it's really you and the apparatus. (college gymnastic teams have a lot more camaraderie)

I like seeing what Biles can do and am disappointed in her withdrawing. But at the end of the day, for an individuals' sport like this one, I subscribe to the wisdom of the great sage Ivan Drago:

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

He called her a quitter in the heading.

For the sake of accuracy, he said that she'd quit, and I don't even know whether it referred to a specific event or the entire Olympics competition. That doesn't necessarily make her a quitter, which is more of a broad label.

From my reading, this thread has included a number of communications that missed their mark or were misperceived. I think it's in the nature of trauma, mental health, emotional well-being, stress, and such.

In addition to some pessimistic predictions being fulfilled, there has been sarcasm from people who have otherwise seemed genuinely caring.

Some who have seemingly disagreed, have Liked in common another person's post that offered a more nuanced take. And some have even Liked what in other threads has erupted into bickering. Overall, there's been less rancor and hardening of positions than usual. I agree w/@Ricker that for the most part the Boneyard has risen to the challenge in our "not bad overall for a bunch of guys" way.

The thread touches on messy matters that rarely lay out neatly. And uncomfortable emotions often lend themselves to imprecise communication. Sometimes it's not such a bad thing to stay with the discomfort and seemingly contradictory & unsettled feelings.

 

[superjohn]

I'm still not clear. She did "quit." It literally means "leave." My initial assumption, based on the thread title (because, like you, I can read), was that SJ was using it pejoratively, but then I read his post and thought otherwise.

Him confirming that he said she quit, which she in fact did do, doesn't confirm he thinks she quit on her team. I don't know why he's being cryptic.

My point is that there's a difference between quitting something and quitting on something. This is from the article linked to above:

She didn’t quit on her team. She quit, she said, and saved the team.

Thank you. This is a strange place, I had no idea we can no longer use words that describe the action we witinessed.

I said she quit because she quit, I wasn't critical of her as you could tell from my post. It's hard to believe others can't see that but this is the boneyard.

 

[Rocktheworld]

I distinctly remember my girlfriend and I watching and saying “Somethings going on. She is sucking ass” the first night of competition. The way she went out of bounds on the mat and almost ran off the pad after the vault. She seemed so off and a commentator said she seemed disinterested or something.

 

[Rocktheworld]

I'm just saying that the Nasser stuff was there the whole time.
Cant believe that it is the reason for her quitting at this very moment.
There were other reasons.

I pity people as stupid and ignorant as you

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Meh! I honestly couldnt care less.

Just enough to weigh in.

 

[Kaizen]

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Thank you. This is a strange place, I had no idea we can no longer use words that describe the action we witinessed.

I said she quit because she quit, I wasn't critical of her as you could tell from my post. It's hard to believe others can't see that but this is the boneyard.

Until I read someone using the word "withdraw," I had a sense that there was a better word but I couldn't come up with it. I think you might have benefitted by its use

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I'm sure Clay Travis is already on it.

Clay's more of a winter Olympics guy I'd bet.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Thank you. This is a strange place, I had no idea we can no longer use words that describe the action we witinessed.

I said she quit because she quit, I wasn't critical of her as you could tell from my post. It's hard to believe others can't see that but this is the boneyard.

When someone is said to have “quit”, there is very often an implied moral and/or fortitude failing. I can see how you didn’t, but obviously others applied that coloring of the message

 

[sammydabiz]

We live in a country full of quitters, she def does not have a Mamba mentality. Sad….

 

[Kathy]

When someone says that the happiest moments of a career in which they were the best in the history of their chosen sport were their times away from the sport you know something's up.

I think she's mentioned that the only reason she's still competing is that she's the last active Nassar accuser and her absence would make it harder to press for reform of whatever the governing body is.

That's a lot pressure she puts on herself, as well as the pressure from others.

The scoring issue also plays into this

Simone Biles Dials Up the Difficulty, ‘Because I Can’ (Published 2021)

The Olympic gold medalist’s new vault is so dangerous that gymnastics, for now, limits the scoring rewards for trying it. Biles says that’s unfair.

www.nytimes.com

 

[phillionaire]

I'm sure Clay Travis is already on it.

 

[krinklecut]

 

[mustafa]

I pity people as stupid and ignorant as you

You've shown yourself to be the stupid one. You someone who just makes excuses for people.
You either Do or you DON'T. She plain wasn't feelin' it and just Quit.
Nasser stuff didn't affect her last Olympics, World championships , qualifying. It all came to a head right now in CRUNCH TIME.
Girl Quit and he will and should affect her payday. Same as if she did do well, then it would also affect her payday, this time positively.

 

[krinklecut]

You've shown yourself to be the stupid one. You someone who just makes excuses for people.
You either Do or you DON'T. She plain wasn't feelin' it and just Quit.
Nasser stuff didn't affect her last Olympics, World championships , qualifying. It all came to a head right now in CRUNCH TIME.
Girl Quit and he will and should affect her payday. Same as if she did do well, then it would also affect her payday, this time positively.

Delete your account

 

[Kathy]

You've shown yourself to be the stupid one. You someone who just makes excuses for people.
You either Do or you DON'T. She plain wasn't feelin' it and just Quit.
Nasser stuff didn't affect her last Olympics, World championships , qualifying. It all came to a head right now in CRUNCH TIME.
Girl Quit and he will and should affect her payday. Same as if she did do well, then it would also affect her payday, this time positively.

You have no understanding of people who have experienced trauma. I pity you and anyone around you who ever has anything to recover emotionally from.

 

[Kaizen]

You've shown yourself to be the stupid one. You someone who just makes excuses for people.
You either Do or you DON'T. She plain wasn't feelin' it and just Quit.
Nasser stuff didn't affect her last Olympics, World championships , qualifying. It all came to a head right now in CRUNCH TIME.
Girl Quit and he will and should affect her payday. Same as if she did do well, then it would also affect her payday, this time positively.

Go to 99 Cent Store buy a mirror.

 

[sammydabiz]

Delete your account

Delete yours…. She quit plain & simple. We need less coddling and more personal responsibility in this country. We’ve become a nation full of Sallys

 

[EBonz30]

Luckily you made this post anyway so we still know you're a bad guy

Only if you knew me- calling me a bad guy is not practical or logical to me- but to each is own. I have never called anyone a bad person or a negative name on this boneyard website.

 

[Scoe]

Ill go ahead and just ask you all this question. If Shabazz quit at the Final Four in 2014 how would you all feel be honest.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

and speaking of girlz,
Carissa Moore Makes Olympic History With First-Ever Surfing Gold Medal (msn.com)

it almost looked like that alaska swimmer's gold medal party here. almost.

 

[Kaizen]

Ill go ahead and just ask you all this question. If Shabazz quit at the Final Four in 2014 how would you all feel be honest.

It will be OK since he was a UConn player and a male ..

 

[krinklecut]

Delete yours…. She quit plain & simple. We need less coddling and more personal responsibility in this country. We’ve become a nation full of Sallys

I’d prefer to be a nation full of Modern, but a nation of Sallys would be my second choice

 

[EBonz30]

Luckily you made this post anyway so we still know you're a bad guy

Also I am not into the name calling & slander of other people in the yard- I see us as a community & although we have different opinions on subject matters, I don’t see how it is heathy or productive- it has never been me & will never be me- never understood it- with that said we have freedom of speech so I guess it is par for the course.

 

[Scoe]

Also I am not into the name calling & slander of other people in the yard- I see us as a community & although we have different opinions on subject matters, I don’t see how it is heathy or productive- it has never been me & will never be me- never understood it- with that said we have freedom of speech so I guess it is par for the course.

Go ahead say what you wanna say, put it out there.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Ill go ahead and just ask you all this question. If Shabazz quit at the Final Four in 2014 how would you all feel be honest.

If something happened that caused him to feel that his safety/health were in jeopardy from continuing to compete, I think any rational adult would have understood. I like to think most of us here realize there are plenty of more important things than sports, no matter the level.

 

[JimCtheGOAT]

I respect her mental health and hope she is back to being her usual self. The only thing that I don’t get is why she was feeling so much pressure. I know she is the face of women’s gymnastics, almost all olympians. So I get that she is a huge name and millions of people probably look up to her.

But she’s been an Olympian before. She won 4 gold medals last time. Has a billion world championship golds. Team USA has won the team event the last two team golds and were heavy favorites this year. So She’s not trying to end some long painful losing streak for her country. Team USA wins the overall medal count every year. so I don’t see why she would be feeling this extreme pressure to deliver for her team, team USA , or the USA in general.

She’s the best of all time. she rolls out of bed and is better than everyone else half asleep. And she didn’t even need to be good for us to win gold. She even didn’t need to be average for her. She could’ve been really really bad for her standards and we would still win.

it would be like usain bolt having to run a 11 second 100m to win gold or tiger having to shoot 85 to win the Ryder cup. It’s really bizarre.

 

[InTheRed]

I find many posts on here very odd as if she owes any of us anything. Beyond ensuring her own health, the only people's opinions she should care about are her teammates. I havent seen any quotes but I bet they support her 100%.

 

[Scoe]

If something happened that caused him to feel that his safety/health were in jeopardy from continuing to compete, I think any rational adult would have understood. I like to think most of us here realize there are plenty of more important things than sports, no matter the level.

I kind of have mixed feelings on all of this. Sounds like this wasnt a surprise to her teammates. A part of me thinks if this were a male athlete there would be far less public sentiment.

Of course there are more important things then sports, part of being a GOAT in your own sport is blocking out off the sport obstacles in life, even MJ had to quit after winning 3 titles in a row after the death of his father. The news is a bit of a shocker the day of a gold medal match, life decisions.